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Teaching Alternative To Evolution Backed
Washinton Post ^ | Wednesday, May 29, 2002 | Michael A. Fletcher

Posted on 05/30/2002 7:40:53 AM PDT by Gladwin

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:34 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: AndrewC; VadeRetro
Guys,

I'm 42 years old, married and we're adopting two boys. We have a lot of fun together doing things like playing ball, chasing each other, tickle wars, going for walks, etc. This is called life. Get one. :-)

701 posted on 06/01/2002 5:49:01 PM PDT by scripter
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To: PatrickHenry
Darn you Mr. Henry! Darn you to heck!

(Smurfberry hopscotch.)

702 posted on 06/01/2002 5:54:17 PM PDT by Condorman
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To: PatrickHenry
Well ... Mr. Gloating-about-getting-post-666-Darwinist-atheist-nazi-communist-lurker-pinko-slimer-fascist-summer uniform ... not really.
703 posted on 06/01/2002 6:15:03 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: scripter
Don't get me asking myself that stuff! Rumors of life away from the computer have been filtering in to me. And I may be there soon if a certain Bigfoot moderator has anything to do with it.
704 posted on 06/01/2002 6:17:18 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: JediGirl
Ad hominem attack. But we appreciate it and accept it gracefully. You are a perfect example of how desperate Creationists get when they don't have any evidence outside of the Bible to back up their beliefs. Keep up the good work. You're getting your point across quite well.

I see VadeRetro has sent out his first string to take up his cause in this debate. Very well. Let's see... 17 years old, possibly 18 by now. As possibly the high school graduate that you are, I suspect that you are probably about as intellectually, and scientifically accomplished as VadeRetro himself, though I will affirm the fact that you do write far more coherently than he does.

As an accomplished multi-degreed biochemist myself, however (who happens to be better than twice your age), I'll let this attest to the fact that I probably know somewhat more about the science you can at this point only pretend that you to understand. As one who, unlike yourself, personally predates the Star Wars movies, and your screen name suggests that you fantacize about, it will be far more helpful for you to actually make an educated study of science before you start driveling away your credibility as Darth VadeRetro does now with such panache.

Regrettable as this realization may come for you, particularly as it pertains to your intellectual standing in this debate, StarWars themes won't make you a more competent commentator on matters of science no matter how many times you may swear you and Darth VadeRetro have seen the movie series back-to-back.

May the force -- of fact based science -- finally be with you ... someday. That is, if you have the courage to let it.

705 posted on 06/01/2002 6:28:53 PM PDT by Agamemnon
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To: PatrickHenry
Did I get it?

If you get 777 you'll tie with general_re and be executable by anyone. To beat general_re you'll have to get 888 as well.

706 posted on 06/01/2002 6:30:59 PM PDT by scripter
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To: Agamemnon
It's probably a mistake to lead with your resumé if you're not going to say anything intelligent.
707 posted on 06/01/2002 6:38:56 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: Agamemnon
The logical force of your arguments continues to impress us all.

I'll be back soon with gratuitous insults based on tales from ancient Greece.

708 posted on 06/01/2002 6:45:33 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Agamemnon
So tell us what your esteemed colleagues in the sciences think of this contention of yours:

All "species" that could have possibly been, existed in the original Creation. Not all of those "species" exist now, due to their extinctions throughout history (e.g., most dinosaurs).
I'll bet the paleontologists and geologists love it. (Well, if you work at ICR, maybe they do.)
709 posted on 06/01/2002 6:54:27 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: Gumlegs
I'll be back soon with gratuitous insults based on tales from ancient Greece.

You misspelled tails

710 posted on 06/01/2002 6:54:36 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: balrog666
The point is, ANY religion is a vast improvement over evolutionism.

It appears to me that they are completely unrelated subjects. Others have made the same point time and again in the previous posts.
May I suggest that you get some professional help to enable you to distinguish between them?

You're claiming that evolution is not a religion? Doesn't the idea of being a religion mean a belief system of some sort, above and beyond what is empirically observable?

I mean, within historical times, people have claimed to have seen God and Jesus Christ. Nobody's ever claimed to have seen macroevolution in all of recorded history. In fact, honest experts freely admit that there isn't even a shred of evidence in the fossil record for macroevolution. In fact, many of them admit that the necessary sequence of intermediate steps which would be required for going from early mammals to, say, bats is not even conceivable and don't make yourself sound stupid by talking about flying squirrels and lizards which have never even thought about flapping their skin folds the way a bat has to.

The fact is that evolution is more of a religion than any of the recognized religions; it requires the gullible people who believe in it to take a whole lot more on faith than any other religion does.

711 posted on 06/01/2002 6:56:56 PM PDT by medved
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To: Gumlegs
Darwinist-atheist-nazi-communist-lurker-pinko-slimer-fascist-summer uniform ...

I've been called worse, I guess. I just can't recall when.

712 posted on 06/01/2002 7:02:17 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
Think hard.
714 posted on 06/01/2002 7:05:52 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Agamemnon
As an accomplished multi-degreed biochemist myself, however (who happens to be better than twice your age), I'll let this attest to the fact that I probably know somewhat more about the science you can at this point only pretend that you to understand.

You'd better work on your charm a little bit more if you plan to talk with any more 17-year-old girls. My guess is that you're not making a big impression.

715 posted on 06/01/2002 7:06:40 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: Gumlegs
Agamemnon isn't a tail. He's what's just below its base.

I was correct, you did misspell the word but you were correct otherwise.

716 posted on 06/01/2002 7:08:25 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: Gumlegs
Think hard.

Ahem!

717 posted on 06/01/2002 7:10:19 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
And I am right,
And you are right,
And all is right as right can be!

Everybody join in now ...

718 posted on 06/01/2002 7:15:38 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: AndrewC
If you're going to quote my gratuitous insults, shouldn't trouble yourself to get the hue right?
719 posted on 06/01/2002 7:17:34 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Agamemnon
As one who, unlike yourself, personally predates the Star Wars movies, and your screen name suggests that you fantacize about, it will be far more helpful for you to actually make an educated study of science before you start driveling away your credibility as Darth VadeRetro does now with such panache.

Such stupidity is hardly deserving of a response.

720 posted on 06/01/2002 7:19:45 PM PDT by JediGirl
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