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Their Own Worst Enemies - A bad midterm outlook for the GOP
National Review ^
| May 29, 2002
| Deroy Murdock
Posted on 05/29/2002 8:44:38 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Badray
Exactly and kudos to you for doing that work.
It's easy for us to sit here and complain about Republicans that spend like Democrats, but we need to take responsibility for the people who end up being the nominees for the GOP. There needs to be a message sent to RINO's in all the primaries, and that message is: We will do everything in our power to see that you do not represent us. If enough people held themselves out and made noise during the primaries, we wouldn't have as bad of a situation as we do now.
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posted on
05/29/2002 10:01:41 AM PDT
by
diotima
To: Zack Nguyen
Imagine if their [sic] were no war...
BZZZZZZT! Can't do that. Maybe if those tall pretty buildings were still standing in Manhattan I could. But they're gone cuz some mean ol' Muslims knocked them down and killed a whole lot of Americans.
There are no "ifs" in this situation, only what "is."
If "if" were a fifth, we'd all be drunk.
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posted on
05/29/2002 10:01:43 AM PDT
by
rdb3
To: Austin Willard Wright
No...conservatives should not go "fishing" this time. They should actually take action to "send a message" (instead of giving Dubya their loyalty as they did in 2000) by voting third party. Hooray! Now, let's hope SOMEONE ELSE gets a third party candidate and movement going! Maybe tomorrow. Over there.
I've learned over the years to laugh at the political punditry of you third party "real conservatives". Most of y'all couldn't find your ass using both hands, much less forecast the outcome of real people doing real work withing real political instritutions to elect real people pursuing their real priorities.
You sure are virtuous and strong on the internet, however. There's never been a more vital cyber force than "true patriots" defending "real conservatism". Nobody shows pure ideological valor over the WAN, and uncompromising principle via TCP/IP like you guys do.
And to think ... none of you are even wearing pants.
To: Zack Nguyen
Base will not be depressed
All we need to thik about arte those Judicial appointments that are languishing!!!!!I'm the Base and I'm Pretty Pissed
To: hchutch
Democrats have a gift being handed to them this November.
Its called the "third party vote."
To: semper_libertas
Yet, BUSH promoted, endorsed and apporved suspension of 1st Amendment rights 60 days prior to a general election.Bush did not endorse or promote CFR. He did sign though and gave his reservations.
To: WIMom
The enemy is liberalism! We have to fight it, to rid it out of this country.
Yes, we do. I just think that a lot of people would like the President join us.
To: arkfreepdom
RE: CFR - and I think BUSH is betting the Supreme Court will not uphold CFR!
To: Austin Willard Wright
"Conservatives did vote in 2002. They shunned all third party candidates and voted GOP." Could you please cite some sources to validate your continued assertions that conservatives supported Bush and the GOP in droves during the 2000 election? Thanks!
I ask because since the election, I have yet to see any documented evidence that this was the case. In fact, I have seen just the opposite. Karl Rove's analysis (posted on a recent FR thread, I believe) indicated that conservatives stayed home in much greater numbers than they were anticipating, contributing to the closeness of the contest. Just because 3rd party candidates' numbers were down, it does not necessarily follow that conservatives voted for Bush and the GOP; it could just as easily mean that they didn't vote, period.
And I shudder at the implications if conservatives really did flock to the polls for the GOP in 2000. If so, then judging by the Democrats' gains in both Houses of Congress, it must mean there aren't nearly as many conservatives out there as we think.
To: Charlotte Corday
President Bush is not running this November. I do not intend to make my vote a referendum on his performance. Instead, I will vote for whichever Senate and House candidate(s) most clearly express a belief in lower taxes and less government regulation. If that's a Republican, that's fine by me. If it's a third party candidate, that's fine by me too. I agree completely!
To: Austin Willard Wright
I've been paying attention. Would you rather have gore or hillary or lieberman or McCain in office? You and those like you can spout all the 'look what he did' rherotic, but this type of fighting only hurts any hope of advancing any type of conservative movement. I want all liberals out of power, and right now, our only hope is to side with the GOP. They don't always do what I believe in, but they have the means to take control.
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posted on
05/29/2002 10:06:58 AM PDT
by
WIMom
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To: WhiteGuy
What alternative is there? No alternative party will be elected. So instead, vote liberals in?
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posted on
05/29/2002 10:08:54 AM PDT
by
WIMom
To: Jagdgewehr
If so, then I'll be irritated at any of them who do so. Because they are doing the same thing Jeffords did, in my opinion.
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posted on
05/29/2002 10:09:09 AM PDT
by
hchutch
To: self_evident
Does anyone know when the last time the GOP had the majority in both houses and the presidency? I'd like to review what was passed etc. It might be interesting and useful.
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posted on
05/29/2002 10:11:15 AM PDT
by
WIMom
To: hchutch
"The problem is, you had that party-switch by Jeffords, which turned everything around." Admittedly, losing control of the Senate was a major blow; however, we've still got the House and very popular POTUS but the domestic agenda that has been enacted since the minimal tax cut has been that of the Leftist DemonRATS!! Jeffords or no Jeffords, we've got to be more willing to stand on--and fight for--our Principles because it just so happens that our principles are RIGHT!!
Limiting the Size and Scope of the Federal Leviathan is demonstrably better for America and we needn't be ashamed of taking that argument to the Sheeple. Instead, it seems lately we're all-too-willing to go along to get along with the Collectivists.
FReegards...MUD
To: semper_libertas
"You have battered woman syndrome." ROFL......HA HA.....typical liberal - solving my problems - and naming some syndrome as my problem......If YOU only knew....HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA....NO, not hardly - just ask my husband....HA HA HA HA HA STILL ROFL
I, however, do live in the land of REALITY unlike some others.....
To: WIMom
Wasn't it during Eisenhower?
To: hchutch
IMO the nation is about to crumble. GW is opening the floodgates for the last hurrah. Remember the words of Alexander Tyler: "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage". (Just where do you think we are today?)
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posted on
05/29/2002 10:13:03 AM PDT
by
Digger
To: gunshy
Bush is far and away the best democrat president of the last hundred years. BTTT encore presentation. ROTFLMAO!
On a serious note, couldn't agree more. I'm not voting for my first termer GOP pigperson, who told us how conservative he was, and has proceeded to vote like Tom Daschle.
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posted on
05/29/2002 10:13:05 AM PDT
by
Jesse
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