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Women pass over dumb men
The Sydney Morning Herald. ^

Posted on 05/27/2002 10:28:34 PM PDT by VinnyTex

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To: hobbes1
"Oh....He is...."

Uhhhh......ok......I will ask it.....how much does he charge?

121 posted on 05/28/2002 11:17:36 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: hobbes1
LOL!

And I see that it IS his personality :)

122 posted on 05/28/2002 11:17:40 AM PDT by Motherhood IS a career
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To: one_particular_harbour
Yes....LOL, last week, I am changing at the gym, and two guys come in, and the entire time, they are talking about how much,...bumper, this not present third guy gets, and I was dying to tell them,

The first clue you are a geek, is when you spend more time talking about how much tail another guy gets...

124 posted on 05/28/2002 11:26:09 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: nopardons
Thirty-five years and one child later, my husband and I are happily wed.

I'm glad you and your husband are happy. Would you mind, then, sharing some of that happiness here?

125 posted on 05/28/2002 11:41:29 AM PDT by avenir
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To: one_particular_harbour
Yes, but it's not just that.

There are men who just plain don't like women. You can tell them a mile away. (And I'm not referring to homosexuality here, folks.) They have no respect for women, and they just ooze disdain toward them. And then they wonder why women aren't breaking down their door.

Well, guess what? Women don't like men who, in general, don't like women.

The same goes true for the man-haters of the world. What self-respecting man would want to be with a woman who wants nothing better than to crush his balls?

I don't know what makes any person think that looking down on the oppositve sex will make them anything but unattractive to the opposite sex.

126 posted on 05/28/2002 2:52:42 PM PDT by Motherhood IS a career
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To: metesky
CONGRATS on your long running marriage ! I love your wife's nic, BTW; as well as her posts. : - )

My husband doesn't post replies at all; he leaves that to me. He just reads the threads and grumbles or laughs.

127 posted on 05/28/2002 3:14:39 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: DBtoo
Great boost for your ego, though , I bet . What a fantastic anecdote !

" Looks " are far less important, to a happy relationship, than intellect and shared commonality is. : - )

128 posted on 05/28/2002 3:17:59 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Captainpaintball
Okay, I hear your plea for help. Here are my top ten suggestions for finding a girl. I've been married for 20 happy years, so I can now safely reveal these secrets. Yes, they work, IF you'll follow them. Ready?

1. Hit the weight room twice a week and run three times a week. Women don't like out of shape guys.
2. Shave, brush your teeth, and get your hair cut regularly in a decent style.
3. Wear reasonably in fashion, decent clothing, but avoid extreme fashions. Make sure your clothes fit, and don't look like your mother dressed you. If you aren't sure what to buy, ask a girl (get it?) to help you pick out some new clothes. Just tell her you'd like to change your style a little, but aren't sure what to pick out (caution, make sure this girl has taste).
4. Clean up your apartment. That means making the bed, having and using a clothes hamper, cleaning the toilet, tub and sink, and doing the dishes. Do not have copies of Playboy, Penthouse, Bound and Gagged, Hustler, Barely Legal or the JC Penney catalog turned to the bra and panties section laying around.
5. Decorate your apartment, but don't go overboard. If you don't know what to do, ask some girl you know (get it?) to help you pick out some stuff for your apartment. Just tell her, gosh, I really don't know much about decorating, and I'd like my place to look a little nicer. Set aside a reasonable amount of cash for this little trip.
6. Try being a friend before you try being a lover.
7. Avoid these topics: your mom, your lousy love life, your favorite football team, infectious diseases (unless she's a nurse), how cool you were in high school, video games and how drunk you got at a party.
8. Discuss these topics: where she's from, what she likes, what she majored in at college, where she'd live if she could live anyplace in the world. After the small talk, conversation will pick up if you have mutual interests. If you don't have mutual interests, you probably wouldn't be together too long anyway.
9. Go places where you're likely to meet people, and become more sociable. Learn to dance. You don't have to be a great dancer, but learn to dance without embarassing yourself. When I say be sociable, I don't mean bars. Take some college classes (preferably something likely to be coed), get involved in a larger church, go to parties, get out with coworkers, etc.
10. Quit worrying about pick up lines. You're not picking someone up, you're meeting them. "Hi" works great.
And one last, final piece of advice. After you meet a girl, don't go around bragging. It makes the girl feel like a fool and it makes you look like a jerk.

As a last note, if a girl isn't interested in you, it's not the end of the world. I had a lot of girls tell me no, they weren't interested in dating me, but a lot more said yes. The woman I married was a cheerleader who went to nursing school, decided she wanted to be a stay at home mom, and is, in all actuality, way too good for me.

Sorry to interrupt this thread with this absurd vanity post, but I heard some guys on this thread that really sounded like they needed help. Ladies, if you think I'm incorrect on any of these points, please post your responses, as you are the ones these guys are stressing out over.

129 posted on 05/28/2002 3:19:23 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: Smokin' Joe
Probably not ... LOL
130 posted on 05/28/2002 3:19:41 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: jlogajan
It has absoluely NOTHING to do with what anyone is willing to " settle " for. Not with women anyway. Besides which, what may make one person's heart beat faster, isn't the same for everyone. One woman may find one man " handsome ", whilst to another, that same man may look totally unappealing .

For most women, a great looking man who is a social bore and has none of her interests ( an " empty suit " ), is a waste . OTOH, it has been proved that many men find " looks " the first priority , when considering whom to date / marry. Then, they blame the woman when there's no there there and things don't work out. Instead, they should blame themselves for choosing so unwisely !

Your backhanded attemp to slam me, was both juvenile and pathetic. My ego is just fine, thank you very much, and needs no self stroking. Perhaps the truth ( which I have been posting ) , hurts your tiny ego, as you fall far short of each woman's criteria for a male's desirability. : - )

BTW , I didn't " settle " ; I married someone who handily met every one of my preconceived ideals. : - )

133 posted on 05/28/2002 3:38:12 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
I agree. My husband and I have a good marriage because we share so many interests, and have so much in common. Even our backgrounds have a lot in common, we both had fathers who were scientists, and we both grew up under very similar circumstances. My husband is good looking to me because he is funny and warm and I love him.

I was very flattered when the guy who was the big high school football star took a shining to me at the reunion! But it ended up where we would be together driving around, or at a restaurant and there would be these long, uncomfortable moments of silence. We had nothing to talk about after going over our memories of high school, where we barely knew one another anyway because he was in the most popular crowd and I mostly hung out with my best friend Tina. I was kind of a late bloomer.

An interesting thing I noticed at the reunion, was that the people I was friendly with in high school I still got along with and it was like no time had even passed, whereas some of the snobby girls seemed to grow up into snobby women.

It confirmed my theory that chemistry between people never changes. If you really liked someone back then and thought they were a hoot, you will feel the same exact way about them when you see them 15 years later!

134 posted on 05/28/2002 3:40:22 PM PDT by DBtoo
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To: PallMal
But remember, birds of a feather tend to flock together.
136 posted on 05/28/2002 3:43:35 PM PDT by DBtoo
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To: Tuor
You may not realize it but many women are painfully shy and think that guys will not like them. There could have been or could be some women who indeed would like to date you but they may assume you would not be interested in them. Many women have terrible self-confidence, and oddly enough very often it's the pretty ones!
137 posted on 05/28/2002 3:49:53 PM PDT by DBtoo
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To: Richard Kimball
Really GREAT advice ! I'd add only one or two things : 1) If you don't have any hobbies / interest other than sports, cars, and getting into the sack with a girl, cultivate one or more. 2) Don't try to talk about things you know nothing at all about ; the person whom you are trying to impress, just may know a great deal about the subject and decide you are an idiot.
138 posted on 05/28/2002 3:50:36 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
If a man can talk well on a variety of subjects...

Intelligent men (myself included) are often poor verbal communicators. We have spent years studying and working alone , particularly if we work in technical fields, and often don't have much experience in social situations. When a self-confident, glib Clintonoid appears, all of the women gravitate toward him because he knows how to say the kind of things they want to hear. Because we can't verbalize who we are (in a way analagous to a woman who has no experience showing who she is through her physical beauty) we aren't sending the number one signal women are looking for, so the Clintonoid wins the contest.

139 posted on 05/28/2002 3:51:57 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: nopardons
It has absoluely NOTHING to do with what anyone is willing to " settle " for.

That would be true if the number of potential candidates were infinite. But because there is a nearly 1:1 ratio of male/female partners and mating competition, both sides are forced to settle among the available options.

Better looking men and better looking women will have greater choices on average, of course, but even their selections are limited.

By and large, people settle. You can try to claim otherwise, but the laws of supply and demand, scarcity, and rationing all apply.

140 posted on 05/28/2002 3:52:03 PM PDT by jlogajan
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