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FCAT failure rate is `scary'
Miami Herald ^ | May 23, 2002 | BY DANIEL A. GRECH dgrech@herald.com

Posted on 05/23/2002 4:02:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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Passing the FCAT is one of several graduation requirements, including a minimum qualifying grade point average and community service. Tenth-graders who fail the FCAT are offered extra tutoring and can retake the test at least five times before their graduation date.

Obviously their grades do not reflect knowledge learned. The basics must be put up front while community service,
along with sex ed and environmental studies, should be squeezed out.

Miami-Dade school officials said the county's high poverty rate and large population of students still learning English factored into its high failure rate.

Dump bilingual education and teach English.

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News starting to sink in: Many students won't pass***This week's release of scores for the Florida Comprehensive Assessment Test brought home the hard fact that principals, teachers and many parents have known for weeks: More children than ever will be forced to repeat fourth-grade this year, unless they slip through loopholes that allow them to be promoted.

Although students won't receive their FCAT scores until later this month, school officials have spent weeks and months breaking the news to parents. They have pored over student records, sent letters and met with families.

At Richmond Heights Elementary in southwest Orlando, Principal June Jones scheduled 83 meetings to talk about students who might have to repeat a grade. Some parents showed up, some didn't.

Some parents had no idea their children were having problems with reading. ***

1 posted on 05/23/2002 4:02:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I don't necessarily think the community service is a bad idea. I have no idea why they require it, but it might be because many colleges these days require some community service in order to get any financial aid.

I homeschool my son (age 14), but I still have him participate in community service. He volunteers at the YMCA. I think it helps him to take responsibility and be accountable to other adults just like he would be on a job. Plus it fills some of his free time with constructive activity.

2 posted on 05/23/2002 4:14:59 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: dawn53
Mandatory community service...

It's indistinguishable from slavery.

You must work and will not be paid. It's an abomination that people will bend over and accept with just a little glycerin...

You should serve the remainder of your life performing exactly this sort of mandatory community service just to understand the danger it represents as the requirement incrementally grows for your grandchildren and their children.
3 posted on 05/23/2002 4:18:34 AM PDT by Maelstrom
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''This is a totally different group of kids from last year, and every group looks different,'' said Anne Dilgen, director of student assessment for Broward schools. ``We haven't been able to analyze the changes from this year to last. We need to wait for more drilled-down data.''

This is clear proof that someone is playing 'experiments' with OPC (other people's children). Is this education manipulation a lot less harmfull than human cloning?

4 posted on 05/23/2002 4:22:32 AM PDT by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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More than half the 10th-graders in Miami-Dade County and about 40 percent in Broward County failed to meet the state's tougher new graduation standards on the Florida Comprehensive Assessment Test and will have to retake the test.

Anyone care to do a regression analysis which would compare the failure rate on this test to the percentage of improperly filled out (and thus discarded) ballots in these counties during the 2000 election?

5 posted on 05/23/2002 4:28:06 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree
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I'm not addressing mandatory community service, just the value of community service to a young person.

What we have lost in this country is a sense of community, neighbor helping neighbor.

These were values our country had from its inception and for many years following (barn raisings being one example that stands out in my mind.) I think voluntary community service helps to restore this to the community and the individual.

Obviously, my kid, being homeschooled is not required to perform community service, but I see definite positive aspects that he is acquiring from community service.

6 posted on 05/23/2002 4:37:16 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: dawn53
Community service is fine but it doesn't need to be a requirement in public education. The kids can't read or add. That should be the focus.
7 posted on 05/23/2002 4:51:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator
This is clear proof that someone is playing 'experiments' with OPC (other people's children). Is this education manipulation a lot less harmfull than human cloning?

Texas Dem candidate: State write and pub textbooks - schools as labs to improve teaching methods*** Sanchez unveiled the plan while fleshing out his education proposals, which include raising teacher pay to the national average and establishing laboratory schools connected to the state's universities to discover improved teaching methods. He had no price tag for those proposals.***

8 posted on 05/23/2002 4:52:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Anyone care to do a regression analysis which would compare the failure rate on this test to the percentage of improperly filled out (and thus discarded) ballots in these counties during the 2000 election?

I believe it's directly linked to the non-education going on in schools. Generations of Floridians and students
graduated from all U.S. public schools are ignorant. They were robbed of their potential.

9 posted on 05/23/2002 4:58:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: summer
Fl eudcation ping
10 posted on 05/23/2002 4:59:36 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
So how do you balance high standards for all with the special needs of minorities?

How about, apply a consistent standard to all - regardless of ethnicity. Anything else would be racist, right?

11 posted on 05/23/2002 5:10:28 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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OOPS! :-D
13 posted on 05/23/2002 5:12:26 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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[How about, apply a consistent standard to all - regardless of ethnicity. Anything else would be racist, right?]

No! No! No!

''This is a totally different group of kids from last year, and every group looks different,'' said Anne Dilgen, director of student assessment for Broward schools. ``We haven't been able to analyze the changes from this year to last. We need to wait for more drilled-down data.''

They just need time to assess the situation and place blame!

14 posted on 05/23/2002 5:19:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I agree, I don't know why they require community service for graduation.

My guess is, that they give some sort of credit for it, i.e. you earn an academic credit by doing it which would be consistent with the "dumbing down" of the educational system.

15 posted on 05/23/2002 5:26:12 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
They just need time to assess the situation and place blame!

When the inevitable failure is exposed, the blame will be on FL for not providing enough funding. That's always the government solution: if I fail, it's because I need MORE $$$. Wish I could convince my boss of that. ;-)

16 posted on 05/23/2002 5:26:52 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Here Locally - Our High School has only a Failure , Maybe because we don't have any Elected Democrats in the PanHandle ??
17 posted on 05/23/2002 5:31:53 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: dawn53
My guess is, that they give some sort of credit for it, i.e. you earn an academic credit by doing it which would be consistent with the "dumbing down" of the educational system.

It's easier than teaching.

18 posted on 05/23/2002 5:39:38 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: NittanyLion
...the blame will be on FL for not providing enough funding. That's always the government solution:...

It's twisted, self-serving thinking. The survival of teacher unions is their paramount concern. By failing to educate generations of Americans, not only have many been denied reaching their potential, but the U.S. has been diminished because we've lost part of the bedrock which ensures our liberty.

19 posted on 05/23/2002 5:46:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: scooby321
God bless the Panhandle!
20 posted on 05/23/2002 5:48:31 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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