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Mystery of Israeli spies in America: the ecstasy factor - drugs enter story
The Daily Star ^ | 5-14-02 | Ed Blanche

Posted on 05/17/2002 6:45:49 AM PDT by Who is George Salt?

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To: Who is George Salt?
To dismiss information simply on the basis of its source is ad hominem and outright bigoted. And the author's name hardly sounds lebanese. Herman Goebbels would be proud of you.

It is obviously rational to distrust the media in Islamo/facist states. They use the techniques of Heiner, not Herman, Goebbels as a matter of course. And why did you change the name of the source paper?
21 posted on 05/17/2002 7:58:24 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: Catspaw
No, Herman Goebbels would be proud of you. You failed to inform us that your source was the LEBANON Daily Star. You're just a Palie propagandist.
Hear hear! The "link" to Israel-based "digital recording" (the industry euphemism for telephone system monitoring gear) companies is also a total non-sequitor. Even if these companies had the goal of hacking in to U.S. wiretaps, you still have to perform the considerable feat of getting any intercept information out of a wiretap system that has been installed in the U.S. If there is no communication channel, you can't get at the data. And, with a wiretap, you produce quite a lot of data. You have to either store it and hack in to the storage, or you have to get it real-time. Both approaches can be guarded against and detected.
22 posted on 05/17/2002 7:59:19 AM PDT by eno_
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To: Who is George Salt?
I was wrong, you did not change the name. But most people would have assumed it was the Arizona Star or another reputable paper, I think.
23 posted on 05/17/2002 8:01:00 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: Who is George Salt?
Just doing a simple google search on "Daily Star," I came up with three US newspapers that use the name "Daily Star," and there are many more who use the word "Star" in their name.  Using "Daily Star" as your link without informing us that it was from a Lebanese source is, at best, disingenuous, at worst, propaganda.

Daily Star Oneonta, New York

Daily Star Hammond, Louisiana

Daily Star Tucson, Arizona

24 posted on 05/17/2002 8:11:43 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Who is George Salt?
Sorry pal, I'm a true blue AMERICAN military veteran of 21 years

Really? That remains to be seen ;).

In the meantime, there's no difference between you and Arafat, you and any random palie homicide bomber, you and any palie "breeder-of-human-bombs", you and any random nazi or aryan nation vermin.

Based on your posts, of course.

25 posted on 05/17/2002 8:54:14 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: veronica
My thoughts exactly. It seems we are being innundated with Anti-Jewish Propagada Today. Someone must have given Al-Queada Server access. A lot of chatter before 911? HUMMMMMMM
26 posted on 05/17/2002 8:58:13 AM PDT by marty60
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To: remaininlight
You are jealous of Jewish achievement (check out the list of Nobel Prize winners)...

And the relevance of this babble to the issue at hand, the interesting links between Israeli intelligence and organized crime syndicates is ...????"

27 posted on 05/17/2002 8:59:15 AM PDT by Who is George Salt?
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To: Catspaw
You've used the word "bigotry" twice in this thread. Now define your terms.

And you have resorted to nothing other than ad hominem attacks on the source of this story, and myself. Your own actions "define the terms" far better than I ever could.

28 posted on 05/17/2002 9:00:32 AM PDT by Who is George Salt?
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To: veronica
How would you know what a dead Nazi would think?

Well, the spirits of dead Nazis seem to be swimming in the current zeitgeist of a certain little Socialist Sparta.

First, Ha'aretz (note to Catspaw - that's an Israeli paper) published on 25 January 2002 an interesting article by Amir Oren, "At the Gates of Yassergrad":

"In order to prepare properly for the next campaign, one of the Israeli officers in the territories said not long ago, it's justified and in fact essential to learn from every possible source. If the mission will be to seize a densely populated refugee camp, or take over the casbah in Nablus, and if the commander's obligation is to try to execute the mission without casualties on either side, then he must first analyze and internalize the lessons of earlier battles - even, however shocking it may sound, even how the German army fought in the Warsaw ghetto."

Then there are the numbers marked by the Israelis on the hands and foreheads of Palestinian prisoners.

29 posted on 05/17/2002 9:01:42 AM PDT by Who is George Salt?
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To: Who is George Salt?, Cachelot
So you aren't going to define your terms?

Take your Palie propaganda and go back to Sam Francis.

Oh, wait--Sam had to shut down his boards. Cachie, where are the Palie sympathizers and neo-Nazis hanging around these days?

30 posted on 05/17/2002 9:07:30 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Who is George Salt?
Then there are the numbers marked by the Israelis on the hands and foreheads of Palestinian prisoners...

The new schtick of the anti-Israel gang. Comparing Israel to Germany, which is a form of Holocaust denial.

I once went to a dance bar and they marked my hand with Magic Marker, as the Israelis did to Palestinian baddies. Took me 3 days to wash the darn stuff off. You should learn the difference between having numbers burned into skin, never to be removed, and crayons.

31 posted on 05/17/2002 9:08:37 AM PDT by veronica
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To: Catspaw
Oh, wait--Sam had to shut down his boards. Cachie, where are the Palie sympathizers and neo-Nazis hanging around these days?

Lol. That's an easy one. The refugees from SamFran are holed up on Polinco.com and Libertyforum.org. Also partly on Original Dissent, although they don't like it too much - the owner doesn't seem to let them post all they want to from National Alliance, for example.

Of course, if they knew who the owner really was and who they have given their precious personal info to, they'd probably sh*t bricks and go hide under their beds for a year or so. If they dig around a little I believe they'll have a sudden understanding why OD prefers not to run too hot :))).

32 posted on 05/17/2002 9:13:45 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Who is George Salt?
Hitler is a Youth Idol, Mein Kampf is a Bestseller (in Gaza) - (Article by Amos Nevo, "Yediot Ahronot", March 10, 2000 - Extremism in the Palestinian media: Holocaust denial, anti-Semitic cartoons, calls for a jihad.)
33 posted on 05/17/2002 9:14:06 AM PDT by veronica
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To: Who is George Salt?
Oh, yeah, you're really churning out the propaganda today, Georgie boy. Did you guys just get out of a Bund meeting?

Pretty soon you'll be posting that the blood of gentiles is used in the making of Purim pastries.

34 posted on 05/17/2002 9:14:09 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Catspaw
"Pretty soon you'll be posting that the blood of gentiles is used in the making of Purim pastries."

No, just articles that examine the interesting links between Israeli intelligence and drug-running crime syndicates.

35 posted on 05/17/2002 9:18:32 AM PDT by buaya
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To: veronica,Who is George Salt?
Who is George Salt?

Complete Jew-hating dumbass.

36 posted on 05/17/2002 9:19:57 AM PDT by Jimmyclyde
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To: Who is George Salt?
In other words, it is now all but certain that the Israeli art sellers were not a spying operation. But there may have been criminal activity in addition to visa violations, and it may have had to do with drugs.

Okay. Israel has its criminals like every other nation. If they were indeed drug runners, then possibly they were lucky to be rounded up right after Sept. 11 when law enforcement resources were stretched to the limit looking for foreign terrorists.

Don't think the next Israeli drug smuggler to get caught will be so lucky. But at this point, I'm going to wait and see what the DEA and FBI come up with.

37 posted on 05/17/2002 9:22:19 AM PDT by tictoc
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To: buaya
At least try not to be so obvious. Since it is proven that the Taliban and Al Queada were financing their ops through DRUG smuggling, your vain attempt to accuse Israel of the same thing is pathetically ignorant.
38 posted on 05/17/2002 9:22:20 AM PDT by marty60
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To: Jimmyclyde
Jimmyclyde, I love your style! You really cut right through the crapola Georgie Boy is trying to spread on Freerepublic.
39 posted on 05/17/2002 9:33:06 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Who is George Salt?
It is true that a lot of hard-core Russian mob (the most ruthless and brutal mob in the world, bar NONE) are Jewish, and take refuge in Israel when the heat is on them back home in Russia. The same is true for Jewish criminals of other countries: Israel becomes their safe haven, they take their offshore monies and live large.

Now, of course there are criminals of every religion: Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, atheist, agnostic, etc etc. So it is not just a problem with Israel, of course. To believe such is idiotic and myopic. However, the same can be said of those who see no evil in a person just because they are Jewish, Christian, Muslim, etc. "Oh, he's a Christian/Jew/Hindu, he couldn't possibly be a criminal!"

Now, it is true that these Hassidic Jewish boys in New York City were paid to smuggle many many ecstacy pills into the US, I believe it was from Amsterdam, where a very very large percentage of these pills are turned from liquid to pill form. It is certainly not a far stretch to find proof that it was choreographed from inside Israel by Israeli citizens.

I would not be surprised to learn that they were Russian mob... those animals would pull the teeth out of their own grandmothers mouths for the gold, and would pimp their own 12 year old sisters if they could turn them for $5.

so yes, maybe he should have linked the article as "The Lebanese Daily Star". There certainly are a lot of Muslims in Lebanon. But aren't there a large number of Christians as well? I certainly don't think that just because this article accuses some Israelis of being criminals makes the poster part of some anti-Semetic conspiracy.

40 posted on 05/17/2002 9:44:21 AM PDT by Benson_Carter
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