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Global Warming Models Labeled 'Fairy Tale' By Team of Scientists
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 5/14/02 | Marc Morano

Posted on 05/14/2002 4:16:45 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: RightWhale
Niels Bohr.
41 posted on 05/14/2002 9:49:56 AM PDT by jpl
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To: laredo44
Anybody know what the life-cycle of a carbon dioxide molecule looks like? I mean it gets created when fossil fuel is burned, but it doesn't go into the atmosphere and stay there forever. Plants consume CO2 retaining the carbon and releasing the oxygen. Trees store carbon in their wood for centuries. Aren't the white cliffs of Dover some sort of calcium-carbon compound created by shell fish and stored for millenium?

I haven't tried to look, but there should be some information on the residence time of an arbitrary CO2 molecule in the atmosphere. A CO2 molecule can be incorporated into plant growth (terrestrial or marine); can be absorbed by ocean water; or can participate in some surface geological processes such as weathering (and be released by others, by the way).

The white cliffs of Dover are composed of calcium carbonate, CaCO3, specifically calcite.

42 posted on 05/14/2002 9:54:39 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: laredo44
How freakin' smart are these 19,700 socialists first, scientists second guys anyway.

From my understanding in reading this thread, the scientist signing the petition are AGAINST the idea the gobal warming is occuring due to humankind. If I'm not correct, some good FReeper correct me please.

They should have named it the ANTI Global Warimng Petition. The name itself sounds socialist.

43 posted on 05/14/2002 10:00:46 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!
From the Glbal Warmin Petition Project Web site:

Global Warming Petition

We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.

There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.

Please sign here, etc, etc....

44 posted on 05/14/2002 10:05:30 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: kattracks
you mean the sky isnt falling...now how many papers will that sell....well, beans for lunch.
45 posted on 05/14/2002 10:07:20 AM PDT by galt-jw
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To: ancient_geezer
You should have looked at the site (or I should have made it clearer).

The Petition Project disagrees with the scope and extent of "global warming."

46 posted on 05/14/2002 11:19:32 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Publius6961
See #46
47 posted on 05/14/2002 11:20:24 AM PDT by angkor
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You're right I should have looked. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. One more nail in global warming's coffing.

The Charts in reply #28, should be tatooed on the hide of every Kyoto proponent with a dull needle & charcoal.

The links to information & experimental validation in #28 nail em to the wall.

48 posted on 05/14/2002 11:38:07 AM PDT by ancient_geezer
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To: Bagehot

Seems to me like in the next few (hundred) years, we're in for some cold weather.

Such a deal I got for yah, a Y2K closeout sale for foul weather & cold climate gear.

CHEAP, jess for you. For a couple of extra bucks & even through in snowshoes & ice grips :O)

49 posted on 05/14/2002 11:44:10 AM PDT by ancient_geezer
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To: Alas Babylon!
From my understanding in reading this thread, the scientist signing the petition are AGAINST the idea the gobal warming is occuring due to humankind.

Seems to be you're right. Thanks so much for exposing my "rant first and gather facts later" manner of debate 8~).

50 posted on 05/14/2002 12:28:10 PM PDT by laredo44
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