EMERSON & THE SECOND AMENDMENT

Fiedor Report On the News #272 ^ | 5-12-02 | Doug Fiedor

[dcwusmc]

No, numbnuts, the trampling comes from you WODDIES who routinely violate it in your zealous search for people who choose to do things of which you do not approve, but of course you know that and don't care. To your ilk the Constitution is nothing but toilet paper.

[Roscoe]

...the Constitution is nothing but toilet paper.

It doesn't guarantee a right to smoke crack.

[wcbtinman]

"The simple answer to gun grabbers is NOT TO ELECT them."

If it were that simple, the Founders would not have needed to include the 2nd Amendment.

They recognized that the ballot box was not always the proper method, and in fact would fight and die because of it.

[dcwusmc]

Perhaps not, but that is HARDLY my point. It most assuredly does not grant government the authority to violate the BOR in its zeal to prevent people from pursuing their personal, non-coercive pleasures, yet you make no mention of THAT, do you, old drug warrior? Because you LIKE the idea that it's your raw power over others that counts. You LIKE the notion that it should only be YOU, the badass JBT that can have firepower so you can see the naked fear in the eyes of your victims as you bust down their doors with BLANK search warrants in hand, going fishing or maybe PLANTING evidence if it suits your fancy... to your kind, the Constitution is no more than an inconvenient anachronism which you swear to uphold but which is no more than something to be ignored or gotten around when it suits your evil purposes...

And you have YET to answer the question put to you by NUMEROUS FReepers: Have you served in the armed forces of the US? I don't care about your service in the old Soviet army... just the US forces...

[Roscoe]

It most assuredly does not grant government the authority to violate the BOR

Crack smoking isn't protected by the BOR and comparing drug use to the RTBA is nonsense.

[dcwusmc]

Dear THUG: Kindly respond to the issue presented instead of making things up as you go. I am speaking of the routine violations of the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Seventh amendments, at the minimum. By ARMED AGENTS of FedGov. Does the absence of specific language protecting someone's right to self-medicate somehow justify the BOR violations committed by FedGov in preventing such self-medication? Kindly keep in mind that the Constitution GRANTS NO RIGHTS. It PROTECTS PREEXISTING RIGHTS which we have merely by being born. Your disingenuous and duplicitous replies are meaningless Barbra Striesand so please address the actual issues raised, thuggie, old bean!

[Roscoe]

...violations of the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Seventh amendments...

The Constitution shouldn't be violated.

Equating drugs with the RTKB is still nonsense.

[dcwusmc]

Equating drugs with the RTKB is still nonsense.

As may be, Roscoe. No one I know is doing that. The issue is NOT drug use, per se. It is the violations committed by FedGov and other gooberment agents in the obscene pursuit of people who, really, do no more than ingest substances not too unlike what YOU ingest, except theirs is not gooberment-approved. These violations are exactly the same in scope and seriousness as the violations committed by BATFags and others in pursuit of the people whose sole "crime" is to be part of the "gun culture" and THAT is where you have the comparison, Roscoe. If you and your ilk will STOP pursuing people for what they ingest, then I will stop comparing you to pond scum and other disgusting slimey substances, OK? Besides, just WHERE is the legitimate moral and legal AUTHORITY for you to poke your nose into someone else's affairs in that manner? You pursue "druggies" and "gun-nuts" with the same fervor that Carrie Nation did "demon Rum," to the detriment of the pursuit of muggers, killers, makers of real kiddie-porn, and rapists... Why is that, I wonder? Could you please tell us?

Can you also answer the question, HAVE YOU SERVED IN THE US ARMED FORCES?

[Roscoe]

It is the violations committed by FedGov and other gooberment agents in the obscene pursuit of people who, really, do no more than ingest substances not too unlike what YOU ingest, except theirs is not gooberment-approved.

Equating the manufacture, sale and use of illicit drugs with the RKBA demeans the Second Amendment.

[dcwusmc]

BTW, I used to have a neighbor who had been married to a cop in Atlanta. I guess his abuse of authority finally got to her... but she said that when the cops had parties they had PLATES full of the best dope going, all over the house the party was in, all taken from evidence rooms... Gee, do you suppose with this kind of attitude from the COPS that we are "WINNING" the WOsD?????

[dcwusmc]

you are obviously doing too many drugs, roscoe. Reply to the whole statement, in order to give yourself credibility... not that you have ever HAD any crediblity to lose, of course. Your rants are as much fun as Brane-dead Dain's. Only VA Avacado's have any seriousness to them, because HE is obviously psychotic instead of merely stoned, as you are!

[Roscoe]

you are obviously doing too many drugs, roscoe.

Backwards.

[dcwusmc]

To: dcwusmc

you are obviously doing too many drugs, roscoe.

Backwards.

352 posted on 5/16/02 2:02 PM Pacific by Roscoe

Oops, my bad!

ROSCOE, you are obviously doing too many drugs.

[Roscoe]

Backwards still.

[dcwusmc]

And you are avoiding the questions... so one at a time... have you ever served in the US Armed Forces?

[Roscoe]

Emerson isn't about dope.

[dcwusmc]

So have you ever served in the US Armed Forces?

[harpseal]

In response to your $60.00 question or $10,000.00 question depending on your relationship to your local Batmen I would venture that a fair reading of the Second Ammendment would guarntee the individual right to own anything up to heavy artillery. I doubt this will be implemented and I would say a minimalist interpretation of the individual right would include at least the right to own M16's, SAW's, M2's, and of course sidearms and shotguns since all are standard issue in the infantry. As to the heavier weapons it is not against the law to own cannon and rocket launchers per se. Clearly the private companies that manufacture nuclear weapons own them during their liscensed manufacture. Further anyone who can affird their own H-Bomb is going to get one way or the other so I fail to understand how simply making them illegalk serves anyone.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

[dcwusmc]

Been most of an hour now, no reply from Roscoe. I wonder why that is. He was SO QUICK on the draw to the other posts!

[Neil E. Wright]

I see the usual suspects, Roscoe and (the braying)Jackassforever, still will not respond to a direct question. I'm sorta surprised the other statists on this forum haven't weighed in. You know, people like sinkstain, CJ, VA A**hole and the rest. Texa**(hole)79 sorta joined for a couple of posts but managed to shoot himself in the foot and disappeared.

If Roscoe happens to stumble back to this thread later, how about answering the d**n question: (let's start with this one)
have you ever served in the US Armed Forces?

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