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Scientists' deaths are under the microscope
The Globe and Mail ^ | Saturday, May 4, 2002 | ALANNA MITCHELL

Posted on 05/04/2002 10:35:59 PM PDT by Nachum

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To: infowars
I thought it strange the FBI didn't jump on the case as a possible kidnapping myself.

However,I don't agree with you about the body not floating hundreds of miles downriver.I work on rivers much of the time and it wouldn't surprise me at all,especially if the river was on a rise.

41 posted on 05/04/2002 11:59:31 PM PDT by Free Trapper
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To: piasa
By some odd coincidence (Yikes!!! another one!!!) That happens to be the ONLY photo I've seen, and that was from a link on an FR thread. I've never seen or even heard of one in the US mass media. I have heard that many were shown in Europe, and they couldn't figure out why we weren't REALLY PISSED...
42 posted on 05/05/2002 12:03:24 AM PDT by null and void
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To: null and void
What is the BioMEMS industry?
43 posted on 05/05/2002 12:11:22 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: piasa
As one who was in NYC on 9/11 and watched the horror up close and personal... if my interpretation of 'nullandvoid's comment is as yours seems to be then let me help you set the record straight: there once were two very tall buildings known as the WTC, many people occupied them, and many of those people died when two hijacked commercial aircraft were flown into The Twins causing them to collapse.
45 posted on 05/05/2002 12:17:38 AM PDT by NapaCA
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Real ones instead of silicone?
46 posted on 05/05/2002 12:18:58 AM PDT by Free Trapper
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I use microelectronics manufacturing technology to build mechanical parts, this class of products are generically called MEMS - Micro-Electro-Mechanical Systems.

The ones I design and build are used for DNA synthesis (genomics), and protein crystalization and analysis (proteomics).

I'm pretty low level in the scheme of things, but I do worry about some of my customers...

48 posted on 05/05/2002 12:22:58 AM PDT by null and void
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To: null and void
I build parts for the BioMEMS industry. Your qualifications are?

What does that have to do with anything?

My qualifications are I am not crazy and can think logically and coherently and know the field.

49 posted on 05/05/2002 12:23:53 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: infowars
Concerning BJ.

BJ was pushing the idea that the US government trained and paid Al Qaeda and was behind the attacks on 911.

He spewed lie after lie -- always with the leftist world view that evil oil barons rule the world and create all the evil and engage in all the diabolical acts that occur, 911 for example was part of a plot to get oil from somewhere according to BJ.

50 posted on 05/05/2002 12:27:36 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: null and void
The editor that published that cought some heck for it, too. There were descriptions of other photos and these were reportedly published overseas, but not here.

After running into so many people who believe the holocaust never occured, or the moon landings never occured, or other assorted things... I think we are going to regret not publishing some more photographs, or else our kids and grandkids may come to believe this didn't occur.

I'm tired of having every wounded palestinian rubbed in my face, talk of our bombing civilians pounded in, and having our alleged mistreatment of detainees gone over endlessly, while we cannot counter that junk with evidence of our own from the WTC or Pentagon. We were treated to the sob stories of terrorists, but images of US troops in Somalia were quickly doused and people forgot, and Bill Clinton got away without anyone questioning him, even as the bodies were returned in the dead of night.

The public schools show films of drunk driving injuries, and Hollywood shows them grisly horror films, but the kids will never see photos of murder perpetrated against Americans. No wonder this country is filling up with irrational nutjobs... we're trained to think like the world is Disneyland.

51 posted on 05/05/2002 12:27:40 AM PDT by piasa
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To: NapaCA
I am achingly aware of the devastation. I was so angry that I couldn't even cry for months.

I want everyone who had the slightest thing to do with this to die. Preferably slowly and horribly, after watching everyone they love and everything they hold dear destroyed before their very eyes. Then run every scrap of tissue through a pig fat rendering plant.

I am ashamed that so many of my fellow citizens just don't get it. In-your-face images of the human toll might, just might, get the message through to some of the marginally less dense in time to prevent an encore performance.

But we don't want to upset the sheep, now do we...

52 posted on 05/05/2002 12:34:00 AM PDT by null and void
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To: piasa
Excellent rant-- good points!
53 posted on 05/05/2002 12:34:54 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: tallhappy
and can think logically and coherently and know the field.

But not, apparently how to figure out a percentage...

54 posted on 05/05/2002 12:35:36 AM PDT by null and void
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To: null and void
Evasive answer.

See also the post by the matehmatican on agronomists.

55 posted on 05/05/2002 12:38:51 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy
Evasive answer.

Yes I did notice that. Exactly what field are you expert in?

56 posted on 05/05/2002 12:41:46 AM PDT by null and void
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To: NapaCA
I don't think you got my meaning right at all. My point is that the lack of graphic evidence will one day come back to bite us. Right now, the suffering of the poor little terrorists in Gitmo mean more to some people than 3000 people being incinerated... precisely because people are literally swamped with propaganda photos straight from Arafat or al-Qeada. Some Brits were 'shocked' by the sight of detainees in orange jumpsuits and earmuffs... and gave that more play than the deaths of thousands. It was like the horrors of Rwanda, which the world successfully ignored,and which most Americans have never known about, and never will know about. Millions were massacred and few noticed. And Stalin's murders are barely recognized, because there was no press to film them.

The numbers of doubters will grow if the terrorist propaganda isn't confronted, because people years from now will begin to doubt what occured on 9/11. Even now we have people seriously thinking that a plane didn't hit the Pentagon, and others who buy into the nonsense about hundreds of Jews not going to work at the WTC that day.

Of course, it might be said that people who can't grasp the enormity of the destruction and death from the sight of the buildings going down, probably won't accept other photographic evidence, either. But why make it easy for such people to spread their conspiracy theories?

57 posted on 05/05/2002 12:42:32 AM PDT by piasa
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To: tallhappy; infowars
Actually, what BJ was suggesting was more in line with what Stars & Stripes just admitted.
58 posted on 05/05/2002 12:44:09 AM PDT by Spar
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To: tallhappy
OMG! I just checked your profile!

You really ARE a victim of the California State educational system! This explains much...

59 posted on 05/05/2002 12:47:23 AM PDT by null and void
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To: piasa
The problem is that months after 9/11 no hearings have been held on the matter, no American punished for criminal negligence, no once forced to resign. In fact the only person I heard about that resigned was the Port Authority director of Boston, and that probably was done to avoid a media fall out that never happened.

Concpiracy theories arise when people are confronted with facts but are unable to make the true connections. When people have incomplete information they tend to fill in the blanks with concpiracies. The more we do not publicaly and openly investigate with complete transparency then this will get worse.

60 posted on 05/05/2002 12:51:13 AM PDT by Spar
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