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Applied Marxism: the House of Terror in Budapest

Posted on 05/03/2002 2:24:04 PM PDT by Smile-n-Win

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If you come to Hungary sometime, it's a place you mustn't miss. Commentary and documentation are available in English. Be prepared for a long wait, though, and for a state of shock lasting hours or even days. A horror movie is nothing compared to this.
1 posted on 05/03/2002 2:24:05 PM PDT by Smile-n-Win
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2 posted on 05/03/2002 2:26:34 PM PDT by Smile-n-Win
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This museum should be required to be visited by every Euro and American college student.....and by their professors.

Thanks for the post and for the reminder that

1) Marxism/Leninism/Socialism/Communism/Maoism - which are the "isms" which Bill and Hillary Clinton and 100% of the "Democratic Party Leadership" look kindly towards - are straight from hell and those who side with them are, unless stopped, going to bring this hell on earth to this country.

2) Man's inhumanity to man, and man's utter depravity, know no bounds. This is the essence of the need for salvation for only with God can human beings who thrive on perpetrating terror against their fellow men be redeemed. And, as with us all, apart from miraculous redemption, every single one of the terrorists who practiced their craft on the poor souls who entered there - is either in hell or headed there.

It also proves that IDEAS and IDEOLOGIES do matter, despite what anyone tries to say.

3 posted on 05/03/2002 2:36:46 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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Thank you for the heads up on this. It will be a must see on my next visit.
4 posted on 05/03/2002 2:39:01 PM PDT by 2right
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To: Smile-n-Win
One of the men I have admired most in my life was a Hungarian gentleman who enjoyed ten years or so of Soviet hospitality. Baron Zoltan von Somygyi, an Olympian for Hungary in 1936 (gymnastics) and fencing master, served as a cavalry officer on the Eastern Front until captured by the Russians in 1945. He was in the gulag until the Christmas Amnesty in 1955. His tales of the gulag were chilling, and his view of the Russians rather absolute and unfavorable. He said that no one survived without doing things they were ashamed of, and that the only reason he survived was his incredible stamina as an athlete. Returning to Hungary, as soon as the border opened up, he left for Austria, after telling everyone he knew that the Russians wouldn't let Hungary loose and would come back in.

I knew him as my fencing master and friend in California. A great gentleman who gave his youth to hold back the barbarian hordres.

5 posted on 05/03/2002 2:42:55 PM PDT by CatoRenasci
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To: Smile-n-Win
Communists have left a goulish legacy of official torture institutions.

Another is Phnom Penh's S-21, the converted Tuol Svay Prey High School, in which 17,000 people died during Pol Pot's murderous 4-year reign (his ideal was to "outdo" Mao Tse Tung's Cultural Revolution). Tuol Svay Prey HS sits in the midst of a middle-class neighborhood in Phnom Penh.

Any visit to S-21 and the associated Choeung Ek "killing fields" requires 1/2 day for the trip and the rest of the day to recover. I will not describe how personally disturbing it was to visit Choeung Ek.

Islam is Communism's emerging and equivalent evil for the 21st century.

"The Rules" at S-21.

6 posted on 05/03/2002 2:46:24 PM PDT by angkor
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This museum should be required to be visited by every Euro and American college student.....and by their professors.

Indeed. Of course, the visitors tend to be people who are already anti-Communist, but we can achieve a lot by telling the left-leaners what we saw inside. I e-mailed an account of my experience to my "right-skeptic" friends. I hope it will help open their eyes.

7 posted on 05/03/2002 2:51:12 PM PDT by Smile-n-Win
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Is this an article or your personal observations? If it's the former, what is the link to the original? If it is the latter, this should be listed as a "vanity post" so people don't confuse it with published material.
8 posted on 05/03/2002 2:52:10 PM PDT by jimkress
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Islam is Communism's emerging and equivalent evil for the 21st century.

I'm afraid so. No wonder the Liberal media is so bent on it.

9 posted on 05/03/2002 2:54:38 PM PDT by Smile-n-Win
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Is this an article or your personal observations?

It's vanity. Sorry for not remembering to post it as such.

10 posted on 05/03/2002 2:56:15 PM PDT by Smile-n-Win
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This reinforces my gratitude to my great, great grandparents , for emmigrating to America. I lost relatives to the Nazis and Communists, in Hungary. Reading this article was informative and very painful .
11 posted on 05/03/2002 3:03:30 PM PDT by nopardons
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Oops, I left a typo in it:

much more tamer -> much tamer

12 posted on 05/03/2002 3:13:03 PM PDT by Smile-n-Win
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This reinforces my gratitude to my great, great grandparents , for emmigrating to America.

Indeed, it's shocking to think you may never have been born if one of your ancestors had been just a little less fortunate. Or that, if you had been born a few decades earlier, you might have faced these tortures yourself for speaking your mind.

13 posted on 05/03/2002 3:17:40 PM PDT by Smile-n-Win
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...which, I should add, is all the more reason to speak your mind as long as you can safely do so!
14 posted on 05/03/2002 3:19:23 PM PDT by Smile-n-Win
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My family were all rabidly antiCommunists ( as I am ) , so the likelyhood of my being alive now, is pretty low, had my ancestors not emmigrated.

I vividly remember watching the news clips of the 1956 Revolution,as a child, and having my prayers for Hungarian freedom dashed by Russian tanks. We all suspected that such places, as this museum were active; however , to read about it, in detail, makes it worse than one's imaginings.

I have always and shall continue to speak out about the truth. Thank GOD, that I live in a country, where I can do so. I still pray that Petofi and Kossuth's visions for Hungary become a realiy. Many thanks, for kepping us aprised of what is going on over there. : - )

15 posted on 05/03/2002 3:44:09 PM PDT by nopardons
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"This museum should be required to be visited by every Euro and American college student.....and by their professors."

. . .yes it should be. . .and there should include a special invites to all the Hollywood Libs and Media elites. . .

16 posted on 05/03/2002 4:00:20 PM PDT by cricket
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I went to a general history museum. I forget which one it was, but there was a large entryway. I believe it had the original royal crown in it. It certainly had a lot of ancient relics. Anyway, there were a number of rooms dedicated to the communist years, but I noticed that the theme was defiance of the Russians. It was nice to see.
17 posted on 05/03/2002 4:42:02 PM PDT by AmishDude
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I want to say also that I appreciate and want to hug and kiss and sit at the feet of those who endured the Communist butcheries - and survived - or who had loved ones who did.

This goes for those in Hungary, in any of the Eastern European Communist countries, for those in China, Russia, in the Ukraine, in Cuba, in N. Korea and in Cambodia and VietNam.

How much we Americans take our freedom from such terror for granted. At least we did until 9/11.

But I will say again, and will pray against again, that the most dangerous terrorists in America sit in the US Senate - and the worst of all represents the state of New York.

She is a fan of Stalin, of Mao, of these terror chambers, of the atrocities that have been perpetrated in order to achieve POWER for the tyrants who used terror to stay in power. She would do the same if she could get away with it.

She would work with the enemies of this country to destroy our freedom if it would enable her to come to power. (In fact, she already has - by working with the Chinese communists. I am sure that alliance continues to the present).

The Chinese admire Hillary because she is probably the best propagandist in the world today. That means she lies with such skill in the pursuit of power and in the destruction of her enemies that they want to copy her.

I will pray against her because for all her vaunted "power" and "propaganda skills", she is no match for the Lord of Life!

18 posted on 05/03/2002 4:59:26 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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First Circle by Solzhenitzen is a MUST read.

When he accepted exile in he was hailed as a hero by the commie/lib media. When he warned us about losing our own freedoms the media turned on him.

19 posted on 05/03/2002 5:40:35 PM PDT by OldFriend
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"...and by their professors."

Many professors, I suspect, would approve.

20 posted on 05/03/2002 5:48:48 PM PDT by okie01
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