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Adding Trillions Of Years To The Life Of The Universe
spacedaily.com ^ | 3 May 02 | staff

Posted on 05/03/2002 9:41:32 AM PDT by RightWhale

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To: RightWhale
as the fifth dimension undergoes a collapse.

I don’t know about The Fifth Dimension, but I think The Mamas & The Papas had this problem on a stage in San Fran, due mainly to the mass of Cass.

21 posted on 05/03/2002 11:26:13 AM PDT by dead
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Steinhardt's cyclical 5-D brane model isn't completely new. In fact the unique-event version was discussed on FR sometime last year. The brane theory is testable, but the equipment is very expensive and not yet available. This cyclical brane version seems to be an addition to the single colliding branes model, and is not closely related to the Big Bang or oscillating models.
22 posted on 05/03/2002 11:31:20 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: longshadow
space-time place-moment marker

You are here, but if you weren't, how would you know?

23 posted on 05/03/2002 11:32:29 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: LibWhacker
The million monkeys with a million typewriters hypothesis. Would they ever recreate Hamlet? Maybe that's all it is anyway.
24 posted on 05/03/2002 11:35:22 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
You are here, but if you weren't, how would you know?

One of the turtles holding up the Universe would tell me.

25 posted on 05/03/2002 11:35:29 AM PDT by longshadow
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon
"turtles all the way down"

The nested gravastar hypothesis didn't get far, but give it time.

26 posted on 05/03/2002 11:36:44 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
how may we assume that the view is the same from everywhere?

That would be an extrapolation, but that the universe looks roughly the same in every direction from here deserves consideration.

27 posted on 05/03/2002 11:38:53 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: MHGinTN
That's how this sounds to me, too. It just keeps growing and growing with pauses between growth cycles.
28 posted on 05/03/2002 11:40:13 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: SteamshipTime
Where have I heard this before?

On FR last year; a less-embellished version of the colliding branes. You may have heard about brane theory in your other circles; it has been nearby whenever string theory is brought up.

29 posted on 05/03/2002 11:42:49 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Huusker
astronomers keep finding bigger and bigger structures

There was a repeating structure model from some French astronomers a few months ago. A kind of cell structure that can be found from existing deep space observational date using crystallographic analysis techniques.

30 posted on 05/03/2002 11:46:50 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
"Princeton physicist Paul Steinhardt and Neil Turok of Cambridge University"

Any teachers who give their students an average grade of A- must be a very doubtful source of kowledge at best.

31 posted on 05/03/2002 11:56:02 AM PDT by fella
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That's how this sounds to me, too. It just keeps growing and growing with pauses between growth cycles

If it grows, doesn't that imply a time that it didn't exist (take it back to a time when it was really, really, small -then take it back further)? Also, if it is growing, doesn't that imply that it will grow so much it will reach a limit -eventually? Infinity should imply a static amount of matter, energy, and therefore time for each cycle .

32 posted on 05/03/2002 12:02:52 PM PDT by techcor
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Infinity should imply a static amount of matter, energy, and therefore time for each cycle .

The density of matter, or energy, might remain within limits. But what would be the total if it just keeps on going and going? You are probably familiar with sums of infinite series. Some infinite series have finite sums, others have no limit.

Time and space may be without limit, but we might still be the only planet with creatures who are conscious. Just thought I would add that side note.

33 posted on 05/03/2002 12:18:18 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: SteamshipTime
BOOOOOOOOOO!

Okay, okay, it took me a second to get the joke. =^)

34 posted on 05/03/2002 12:29:34 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: techcor
... if the Universe is only 13 billion now it's probably going through puberty.

Just think, if the above is true, maybe we are just a zit?
Oxycreme anyone?

35 posted on 05/03/2002 12:31:47 PM PDT by det dweller too
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To: longshadow
Do any of these turtles have elephants walking on their backs?
36 posted on 05/03/2002 12:33:53 PM PDT by billbears
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To: RightWhale
...but we might still be the only planet with creatures who are conscious.

After reviewing the last several months of news broadcasts, are you sure you want to stick with that "conscious" crack?

37 posted on 05/03/2002 12:37:24 PM PDT by det dweller too
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To: Lazamataz
"........if it would only cut back on the drinking and fatty foods, and stop smoking" Exactly... LOL!
38 posted on 05/03/2002 12:38:41 PM PDT by Pagey
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To: fella
a very doubtful source of kowledge at best

Want to be a cosmologist - Princeton or Columbia. Want to be a physicist? Chicago. Want to be an electrical engineer? Stanford. Want to be president? Yale. Want to be an astronomer? Arizona.

39 posted on 05/03/2002 12:43:33 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: det dweller too
Nowhere in the post was an implication that all creatures on the planet are conscious. :)
40 posted on 05/03/2002 12:45:09 PM PDT by RightWhale
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