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1 posted on 04/26/2002 9:12:13 AM PDT by Korth
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Isn't it just breathtaking that they have just 'gotten' the obvious? What next? Their noses?
2 posted on 04/26/2002 9:15:36 AM PDT by Mahone
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He argues that schools should allow girls to concentrate on the arts and domestic science rather than being pushed towards subjects such as engineering and computer science

Women should learn something they can make a living at. There are no guarantees in life.

4 posted on 04/26/2002 9:18:29 AM PDT by A Ruckus of Dogs
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DUH!!!!!!!
6 posted on 04/26/2002 9:20:56 AM PDT by hawaiian
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liberalism has risen and now disintegrates in less than sixty years.
7 posted on 04/26/2002 9:26:23 AM PDT by galt-jw
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It's not what you do, rather why you're doing it and how you deal with it. And anyone who thinks they can have it all is nuts. Actually, this is probably where the problem lies. They bought into all that feminist crap about having it all, and just discovered the real world doesn't work that way. Awwwwww.
8 posted on 04/26/2002 9:26:54 AM PDT by mewzilla
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He argues that schools should allow girls to concentrate on the arts and domestic science rather than being pushed towards subjects such as engineering and computer science in an attempt at sexual equality.

He is a maroon. I went to engineering school AND met my dh there. The college I went to had about 25% women engineering students. I can't speak for everyone, of course, but among the women I knew and kept up with, virtually *everyone* got married, and their marriages have *lasted.* Most of these women aren't staying home, but a good portion are.

Perhaps it's different in the UK, but women here meet their husbands *in college.* Confining oneself to the female "ghetto" either academically or professionally is a good way to guarantee singleness. Girls who want to meet and marry the boys need to go *where the boys are,* and it's not in home ec, interior design, or cosmetology.

9 posted on 04/26/2002 9:28:36 AM PDT by ikanakattara
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I have two young children (w/ one on the way) and have found what I consider perfect balance: a part-time job (right now I work two 10 hour days but will switch to five 4 hour days when they are all in school). I am blessed with extended family to help out with childcare. I don't know why more women don't work part-time. I get away from the kids for a while, I make enough so we can send our kids to private schools (no government schools for our kids, especially as we live in CA!), and I can get "career fulfillment" while still remaining primarily a a stay-at-home mom (as I'm with them 5 of 7 days). I think I've found perfect happiness, or the closest thing to it.
10 posted on 04/26/2002 9:29:20 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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But, with a 50+ % divorce rate they can't be dependent upon husbands for financial support and hence must have a career.
16 posted on 04/26/2002 10:16:44 AM PDT by RLK
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I thought that the whole idea of feminism was 'choice'. I would define choice as the freedom to be a professional, or a housewife, or something in-between. To have kids, or not. To get married, or not.

Instead, feminism defines choice as the CEO of this company or that. Maybe I just missed the point. Or maybe a woman who is 'just' a housewife doesn't further their agenda.

Speaking purely for myself, I think the reason that both my wife and myself turned out as successful as we have is because both of our mothers stayed home with us until we were 8 or 9. I'd call that far and away more successful than Hillary Klinton and her feminist village.(please excuse the honking of my own horn....)

17 posted on 04/26/2002 10:18:08 AM PDT by wbill
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Report from the dating front: Don't date a lady lawyer or law student. The one I just dated took a cell phone call from her study group in the middle of a lunch date. She is "very busy" -- and so that was our last date. Too much self-absorbtion to ever be "Mom material."
18 posted on 04/26/2002 10:20:19 AM PDT by Draco
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Having read "Bridget Jones' Diary" and am now reading the sequel "Bridget Jones and the Edge of Reason", and being a thirtysomething singleton myself, let me observe further that the Bridget Jones Effect has more to do with a complete lack of standards and guidance in the mating game, and career issues are simply a consequence thereof. Reflecting the modern realities of never-married life, the books & movie referred to observe the amusing & tragic consequences of everyone practically making up the rules (in accordance with PC principles) as they go along: violating almost every social guideline of every well-developed culture and religion, singletons pin their hopes on unviable relationships, suffer the consequences, get p!ssed off by a seemingly unending stream of what Bridget so eloquently & frequently deemed "f***wits", and generally have little choice but to find solace in the one thing resembling stability - career.
19 posted on 04/26/2002 10:25:50 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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My niece works for one of the big CPA firms (no, not Andersen!). She has a very successful career and is on partner track.

The firm for some time has been aggressively promoting women. But they have a problem -- many of the women are asking for part-time or flex-time work because of family requirements. It's difficult to promote them over the men when the men don't ask for that favor.

Also, many of the women have quit. Both because of family requirements and because they don't like the long working hours associated with the profession.

22 posted on 04/26/2002 11:18:12 AM PDT by choirboy
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This article has to be a lie. Patricia Ireland says women are miserable at home.
26 posted on 04/26/2002 11:26:40 AM PDT by montag813
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I recruit salespeople...and you'd be surprised at how many times they (hiring authority) say "...and the best candidate would be a male".
30 posted on 04/26/2002 11:39:24 AM PDT by GuillermoX
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I will venture to offer a different side of this coin. Many "housewives" are miserable as well. My wife has a career and has never stayed at home (other than the times when our two sons were infants). I would categorize our relationship as happier than most. Because we both work, there are no financial problems and neither of us have pressure to "bring home the bacon" so we can BOTH put the family ahead of the job. We share household chores and even have the kids pitch in. Every two weeks, we have a maid service clean the house top to bottom so all we really worry about day to day is laundry and cooking (and yard work in the summer).

Not that I think there is anything wrong with stay-at-home moms. I'm just saying that not all women with careers need be miserable. It really depends on how husband and wife are willing to work things out.

35 posted on 04/26/2002 11:46:08 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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Bump for a later read.
54 posted on 04/26/2002 1:08:17 PM PDT by Artist
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As soon as my wife became Pregnant, she looked at me and said, I am done working, I am going to be a stay at home mom. I said great, no problem. We decided to homeschool, so she is now NEVER going back to "work" as far as she is concerned. Raising our children is much more satisfying to her then any job would be.

It makes me happy as well, I make the money, I come home to loving and intelligent children and usually a pretty happy wife. She LOVES her job, and let me tell you, IT IS A FULLTIME job!!!

I do my best to make sure that we can afford to keep it that way, but if the government doesn't quit taking 1/2 my paycheck, we're gonna have to move into an RV or something!! LOL And don't think we wouldn't if that is what it took to afford to keep my wife at home and my children homeschooled.
56 posted on 04/26/2002 1:10:24 PM PDT by Aric2000
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The women who are really miserable are the ones who gave up a career they wanted to stay home with the children (because that's what they had agreed upon with their husbands) and then the husbands took off and conveniently *forgot* about the agreement. A fifty year old woman without work experience (outside the home) cannot easily find a job--even with a Ph.D or especially with a Ph.D.
57 posted on 04/26/2002 1:13:41 PM PDT by ladyjane
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Women are always going to be miserable. How can you ever be happy, if you have no idea what you want out of life? How can you ever be happy, if you've deluded yourself into thinking that your life can be a Harlequin Romance novel? How can you ever be happy, if you're busy blaming men for all of your troubles?

Quote from Gary Busey in "D.C. Cab:" "Why are women so uptight? They've got half the money, and ALL the p***y!

61 posted on 04/26/2002 1:21:10 PM PDT by Destructor
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By the time I quit work 5 years ago, I believe I was on the verge of a breakdown. The constant running to get here and there, keep up with housework, husband, children, and animals and running on minimal sleep just about did me in. I have to admit that it was hard at first being a SAHM, harder than ANY job I've ever had. But now, 5 years later, I wouldn't have it any other way. My kids are happy, healthy and bright. We get to do a lot of things together and I can attend every school party and/or event. If they ever get sick at school and need to come home, I'm only a phone call away. There is plenty of time later for me to work if I want, but my kids are only kids for a short while. My hubby and I plan to make the most of it.
74 posted on 04/26/2002 2:04:36 PM PDT by Rainmist
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