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What Motivated Southerners To Defend The Indefensible?
The Virginian-Pilot | 23 April 2002 | Rowland Nethaway

Posted on 04/24/2002 9:33:49 AM PDT by wasp69

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To: GOPcapitalist
1. What dictionary?

The Funk and Wagnalls dictionary published with the Encyclopedia Britannica, 1965 ed.

Walt

181 posted on 05/01/2002 5:51:57 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa
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To: GOPcapitalist
Would you rather I accept the fact that you are fundamentally irrational and take an approach to your posts accordingly?

You called your conclusion a deduction. A deduction by definition cannot prove absolute truth. You stated something as absolute truth that was only circumstantial --something you deduced. When push came to shove, you lied. Now you are upset because you got caught.

Walt

182 posted on 05/01/2002 6:20:48 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa
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To: discostu
"Times change, society progresses, people aren't willing to put up with as much as they once did. Judging the reality of one time period by the values and standards of another will give you some very odd results."

That we can agree on.

183 posted on 05/01/2002 7:11:54 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: WhiskeyPapa
You called your conclusion a deduction. A deduction by definition cannot prove absolute truth.

Nonsense. You are arguing semantics that you yourself have not even established to be true.

But since you insist upon taking the argument down this route, I guess I'll just have to beat you there like I did when you took us down the route of appealing to authority. Since you appear to want a semantics war, consider yourself to have gotten one.

de·duc·tion Pronunciation Key (d-dkshn) n.
4. Logic.
a. The process of reasoning in which a conclusion follows necessarily from the stated premises

American Heritage Dictionary 2000 edition

See that walt? FOLLOWS NECESSARILY from the stated premises. To follow necessarily means to follow with certitude. Live with it.

You stated something as absolute truth that was only circumstantial --something you deduced.

To the contrary. I established by causality that truth in my assertion was logically inescapable. You have yet to even address my proof much less attempt to rebut it. Therefore it stands.

When push came to shove, you lied.

Since you fail to substantiate your above assertion, I may reject it in a word. Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.

Now you are upset because you got caught.

Caught at what, Walt? You certainly haven't established that much. So again, I may reject it in a word. Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.

184 posted on 05/01/2002 10:20:14 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: Wolfie
#12, I loved it!
185 posted on 05/01/2002 10:24:08 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: GOPcapitalist
See that walt? FOLLOWS NECESSARILY from the stated premises.

But which cannot be absolutely proven.

La-de-dah.

You lied.

Walt

186 posted on 05/01/2002 10:45:44 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa
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To: WhiskeyPapa
But which cannot be absolutely proven.

Says who? And no Walt, neither you nor those little voices of Abraham Lincoln in your head count as such an authority.

As a side note, to demonstrate necessarily is to prove. To demonstrate that if X is true, Y must necessarily be true is to demonstrate the truth of Y with certitude. Live with it.

La-de-dah.

Are your voices singing to you again, Walt?

You lied.

No, and I can say so with certitude as you have not even specified your allegation, much less proven it. Therefore it may be rejected in a word. Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negature. Live with it.

187 posted on 05/01/2002 10:52:24 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: WhiskeyPapa
And since you insist upon playing semantics, allow me to again beat you at your own game.

From the 2000 American Heritage Dictionary...

nec·es·sar·y Pronunciation Key (ns-sr) adj.
3. Logic
1. Unavoidably determined by prior conditions or circumstances; inevitable: ex. the necessary results of overindulgence.
2. Logically inevitable.

in·ev·i·ta·ble Pronunciation Key (n-v-t-bl) adj.
1. Impossible to avoid or prevent. Certain

Let's recap:

1. To deduce is to reason a conclusion that follows necessarily from the stated premises.

2. To be necessary (as in following necessarily) is to be logically inevitable.

3. To be inevitable is to be impossible to avoid.

4. Hence, a deduction is capable of proving something that is impossible to avoid - in other words, an absolute posessing of certitude.

So there you have it Walt. Just as when two pulitzers beat one I win, properly followed semantics beat improper distortions of them, so again I win. That makes you a double loser. Live with it.

188 posted on 05/01/2002 11:01:20 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Do I take it you are giving up on this one now?
189 posted on 05/02/2002 10:03:36 AM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
See #186.

Walt

190 posted on 05/02/2002 10:14:51 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa
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To: WhiskeyPapa
See #188.
191 posted on 05/02/2002 12:11:07 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Still no response, I see. Can't accept the fact that you got beat at your own semantics game? Or are you simply angered over the fact that I caught ole "honest" abe in a lie! ROTFLOL!
192 posted on 05/03/2002 6:25:18 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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To: WhiskeyPapa
For you to oppose the cause of the Confederacy is understandable, much as I may disagree with you.

For you to disparage the well-documented spread of the Gospel among the Confederate troops is unconscionable and small-hearted.

An evidence that God indeed works in strange ways is that the side that defended something we today find abhorrent no doubt enjoyed the greater revivals during the war.

You don't have to like it; please don't deny the truth, though.

The ultimate paradox of the War is the surrender of the godly Lee to the drunk Grant.

193 posted on 05/03/2002 6:50:20 PM PDT by BenR2
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To: BenR2
The ultimate paradox of the War is the surrender of the godly Lee to the drunk Grant.

Abraham Lincoln, 30 million Americans, and God are the cause of your distress over the defeat of the slave power.

194 posted on 05/03/2002 7:02:25 PM PDT by WhiskeyPapa
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Abraham Lincoln, 30 million Americans, and God are the cause of your distress over the defeat of the slave power.

"And God?" My, you do seem to be impressed with your own 'authority' - speaking for God as you do. Is that the same 'authority' that allows you to 'transmogrify' the specific, written, English word "Constitution" in your oath into "the government of Washington and Lincoln?"

And I can not help but ask, to which "slave power" are you referring? The one for which you voted in 1984, 1988, 1992, and 2000?

What I said was that I had never voted for a Republican presidential candidate. I voted for John Anderson in 1980. In '84 I voted Democratic. Same in '88. In '92 I DID vote for Clinton, although I was for Perot until he went batty. In'96 I didn't vote. In '00, I did vote for Al Gore.

Walt

780 posted on 2/28/02 10:49 AM Pacific by WhiskeyPapa

;>)

195 posted on 05/03/2002 7:36:43 PM PDT by Who is John Galt?
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To: Who is John Galt?
"And God?" My, you do seem to be impressed with your own 'authority' - speaking for God as you do.

What was the GNP of the so-called Confederate States in 1866?

Oh.

Walt

196 posted on 05/03/2002 7:55:59 PM PDT by WhiskeyPapa
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To: WhiskeyPapa
What was the GNP of the so-called Confederate States in 1866?

Oh.

What is the GNP of the so-called Republic of [South] Vietnam today?

Oh.

"...I can not help but ask, to which 'slave power' are you referring? The one for which you voted in 1984, 1988, 1992, and 2000?"

;>)

197 posted on 05/03/2002 8:03:28 PM PDT by Who is John Galt?
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To: Who is John Galt?
Who won the Winston Cup points race in 1862?
198 posted on 05/03/2002 8:07:25 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
Richard Petty?

;>)

199 posted on 05/03/2002 8:09:47 PM PDT by Who is John Galt?
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To: Who is John Galt?
Wow, Richard looks older than his age!
200 posted on 05/03/2002 8:35:48 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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