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Washington Whispers 4/29/02 [Father Gay: Gay groups are freaking out]
US News and World Report ^ | 4-29-2002 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 04/22/2002 1:03:24 PM PDT by Notwithstanding

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To: Steve_Seattle
largely irrelevant topics

Another largely irrelevant topic brought up EACH & EVERY time the Catholic priests story is on the news is pedophilia.While there are a few cases of boys being molested, the overwhelming majority of abuse cases involved post-pubescent boys, NOT children, as they are defined developmentally. Granted, boys who have gone through puberty are NOT adults when it comes to emotional/psychological maturity, every parent of one KNOWS THAT. But, in a sexual sense, sexual abuse of a post-pubescent boy does not fall into the category of pedophilia. The reason the press pushes on with the pedophilia topic is that it lets them avoid the fact this this is really an issue of homosexuality, not pedophilia. The issue is homosexual priests who prey on adolescent teens because they are less threatening and the priests thought they could get away with it. This is NOT about pedophilia!

21 posted on 04/22/2002 1:55:00 PM PDT by PLK
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To: Notwithstanding
EVER HEAR A BACKFIRE? HA!
22 posted on 04/22/2002 2:32:19 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: PLK
"Another largely irrelevant topic brought up EACH & EVERY time the Catholic priests story is on the news is pedophilia.While there are a few cases of boys being molested, the overwhelming majority of abuse cases involved post-pubescent boys, NOT children, as they are defined developmentally. Granted, boys who have gone through puberty are NOT adults when it comes to emotional/psychological maturity, every parent of one KNOWS THAT. But, in a sexual sense, sexual abuse of a post-pubescent boy does not fall into the category of pedophilia. The reason the press pushes on with the pedophilia topic is that it lets them avoid the fact this this is really an issue of homosexuality, not pedophilia. The issue is homosexual priests who prey on adolescent teens because they are less threatening and the priests thought they could get away with it. This is NOT about pedophilia!"

post-pubescent? If the kid is under 17, then this is clearly pedophilia. There is no need to start up with the Clinton speak. I'm waiting on someone to post an analysis showing causality between homosexuality and pedophilia. I think we will be surprised to see that the two go hand in hand.

23 posted on 04/22/2002 3:04:52 PM PDT by I got the rope
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If the kid is under 17, then this is clearly pedophilia

No, the accepted definition of pedophilia involves the definition of "child" to mean someone in the pre-puberty stage of their sexual development. Think about it. If you disagree, that means you believe that a male sexually attracted to a 16-year old female is a pedophile? Come on.

The priest issue is an issue involving the acceptance of gays in our seminaries. If the primary issue was pedophilia, females would have been their victims at the same rate as males. This is not the case, not even close. Granted, some of it was pedophilia, but a much smaller percentage - and the victims were male, as well. So it was homosexual pedophilia.

This does NOT mean that I believe the boys (who did not fall into the definition of pedophilia) were not victims of abuse or that the priests involved do not deserve to have the full extent of the law brought down upon them. The priests were predators of the most abhorrent nature. The Catholic Church will not be rid of this problem until the Pope publicly and STRONGLY reinforces the Church's teachings of the sinfulness of homosexuality and whacks the American cardinals over the head with it.

24 posted on 04/22/2002 3:24:38 PM PDT by PLK
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." Their worry: After making homosexuality acceptable in the media, the fight might be back to square one.

Maybe it is because homos are not normal people and their lifestyle is wrong.

25 posted on 04/22/2002 4:09:18 PM PDT by NC Conservative
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Rope, It appears to me that PLK is making an even stronger statement against this blatant sexual abuse by emphasizing that it is much more an issue of homosexual abusive conduct of teenage boys who have gone through puberty. His argument removes the homosexual excuse that homosexual abuse is no diffeent than hetrosexual child molestation. PLK is not disagreeing with you. He is making an even stronger statement against this abuse than even you have made.
26 posted on 04/22/2002 4:19:49 PM PDT by connectthedots
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homosexual abusive conduct of teenage boys = homosexual abuse of teenage boys.
27 posted on 04/22/2002 4:21:02 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: I got the rope
I'm waiting on someone to post an analysis showing causality between homosexuality and pedophilia.

No such showing need be made. The simple fact of the matter is that these particular predator priests are overwhelmingly Gay Predators.

Why waste time chasing down some undeclared causation? It doesn't matter, nor is it likely, that their being gay caused them in anyway to be Gay Predators. They simply have two deviancies: One primarily victimless, and one that destroys the lives of young human beings by co-opting what should be a sacred trust.

When I lived in DC I always thought that that solo-protestor against the Catholic Bishop(s?) on Mass Ave. was a bit of a bit of a Dodo. Turns out he was a canary.

29 posted on 04/22/2002 5:30:10 PM PDT by the
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Well...I've thought about what you guys have written...and I've come to the conclusion that I shouldn't think about it too much because I believe this is exactly what libs want us to do. "the" is right that it doesn't matter...deviant behavior is deviant behavior...we and the Catholic Church should never except it. Just look at what it has wrought.

By the way, now that I think about it, the causality thing was pretty weak. I'm a scientist...so I tend to be screwed up on math.

30 posted on 04/22/2002 6:15:06 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: UnuEl
I know you'd like to think that only homosexuals do naughty things, but the evidence to the contrary is all around you.

Well, not exactly. But, as complete as the coverup has been, a couple of things appear to prevail. One, the overwhelming numbers of offenses involve post-pubescents not children. Two, of that group the overwhelming number are males not females. Draw your own conclusion ... unless there is no evidence of any kind that will change your tune.

33 posted on 04/23/2002 7:32:04 AM PDT by iconoclast
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