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The Income Tax Is Neither Fair Nor Sensible
ToogoodReports ^ | April 21, 2002 | Ben Cerruti

Posted on 04/21/2002 5:42:46 PM PDT by Starmaker

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To: lewislynn
Same place as federal employees get paid from lewislynn when they get taxed by both the federal government and state governments under income and payroll taxes today.

The taxbase as a whole.

Are you recommending that government employees not pay a National Retail Sales Tax or Income/Payroll taxes today, because they get there money from taxes lewislynn?

Please note that when a government purchases goods from retail suppliers today it pays the same taxes levied and embedded in the prices of those goods as everyone else.

21 posted on 04/21/2002 11:32:39 PM PDT by ancient_geezer
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Please note that when a government purchases goods from retail suppliers today it pays the same taxes levied and embedded in the prices of those goods as everyone else.

Not according to Wisconson tax law. Apparently you read it, yet still don't understand the simple wording.

Sales of goods and services to the federal government or to any of its incorporated or unincorporated agencies or instrumentalities are exempt from the sales tax.

Taxing purchases by the federal government would violate the U.S. Constitution, so the fiscal effect of this exemption has not been estimated.

Which part do you not understand, specifically?
22 posted on 04/21/2002 11:40:16 PM PDT by lewislynn
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By the way lewislynn, you are more than welcome to take any of your concerns to the Court, if ever the NRST should happen to get enacted.

Besides if it is unconstitutional just don't pay it lewislynn, just like not paying the income tax, there is always the black market cash economy. LOL

23 posted on 04/21/2002 11:40:19 PM PDT by ancient_geezer
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Are you recommending that government employees not pay a National Retail Sales Tax or Income/Payroll taxes today, because they get there money from taxes lewislynn?

Other than possible dementia, I have no idea what prompted you to ask that stupid question.

24 posted on 04/21/2002 11:43:26 PM PDT by lewislynn
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Not according to Wisconson tax law.

Constitution for the United States of America:

Wisconsin tax law, cannot tax federal entities. That has nothing to do with Federal Law taxing Federal entities.

25 posted on 04/21/2002 11:43:51 PM PDT by ancient_geezer
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Always read these threads with great interest. Here's one to make ya' all boil up! Maybe Nina Doherty et. al need to take a lesson from the guy I heard about the other day.

This piece of vermine has fathered 6 kids, the kids and the females who bore them are supported by us through the welfare give-away program. The "father" has never seen the kids nor has he ever contributed one dime toward their support.

This miscreant reports a low wage income to the IRS and because he claims the 6 kids he gets a huge "refund" known as the Earned Income Tax Credit.

Happy post 4/15 bump for the children y'all.

26 posted on 04/21/2002 11:50:08 PM PDT by catfur
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Same place as federal employees get paid from lewislynn when they get taxed by both the federal government and state governments under income and payroll taxes today.

Deducting taxes from wages is one thing. giving the impression that the government is taxing itself for sales and services as if it has money to pay itself is quite another.

BTW, the sales tax on "any government" payroll is ON the payroll, not deducted from it....BIG HUGE DIFFERENCE.

27 posted on 04/21/2002 11:53:01 PM PDT by lewislynn
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giving the impression that the government is taxing itself for sales and services as if it has money to pay itself is quite another.

As if it has money to pay itself, LOL. Of course it has money to pay itself it gets it from you in the first place.

When govenment purchases anything from private enterprise it pays the full cost of employee gross wages, employer payroll excises and any property, and other kinds of taxes embedded into the price of the product by virtue of financing all such elements from gross sales receipts.

That is a fundmental fact that cannot be avoided by the very nature of taxation. All a Retail Sales Tax does different is create a receipt detailing the tax burden separating it from the natural(i.e. taxfree) price of a product.

Everyone. government entities too, pays federal taxes through the corporate income/payroll tax VAT system.

DO YOU PAY YOUR INCOME TAX
AT THE SUPERMARKET?

by D. Sherman Cox J.D. L.L.M. Taxation

28 posted on 04/22/2002 12:09:47 AM PDT by ancient_geezer
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