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Israel Winning Broad Support From U.S. Right
New York Times ^ | 4-21-02 | ALISON MITCHELL

Posted on 04/20/2002 11:05:09 AM PDT by scratchgolfer

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1 posted on 04/20/2002 11:05:09 AM PDT by scratchgolfer
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Don't consider myself on the "Right" never will...
Unwavering support for Israel, though.

Only idiots can "understand" the "palestinian" justification for mayhem and murder.

3 posted on 04/20/2002 11:23:20 AM PDT by Publius6961
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To: Publius6961
I am proud to consider myself on the right.
4 posted on 04/20/2002 11:25:42 AM PDT by scratchgolfer
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I was reared Catholic – now I’m not practicing. It’s hard to get further right than I in politics. I am conscious of President Washington’s admonitions about “foreign entanglements,” yet I have no problems coming to a stand on what is going on in Israel.

If Mexicans were coming across the border to San Diego and going into crowded places and murdering people via explosive garments – I would think that our government would take aggressive action to stop it. It appears to me that this is more than a simile of what is happening in Israel.

I am embarrassed that we (America) haven’t been more united in our support of Israel doing whatever it has to do to gain “homeland security.”

5 posted on 04/20/2002 11:31:11 AM PDT by Positive
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Gee, I guess that nobody even notices the fact that the Israelis are right and the Palestinians are wrong. The Israelis have given their neighbors every opportunity to have their own land. All they had to do is stop terrorism but they wouldn't do that.
6 posted on 04/20/2002 11:32:43 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: scratchgolfer
A wise man is always inclined toward his right hand, but the heart of the fool is inclined to the Left.

--Eccl. 10:2

7 posted on 04/20/2002 11:37:53 AM PDT by crystalk
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To: buffalo124
I suggest we also throw klintoon and arafat in the same dock.

After all they have also performed crimes against humanity.

9 posted on 04/20/2002 11:43:43 AM PDT by dts32041
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To: buffalo124
Hey, aren't you supposed to be at the A.N.S.W.E.R. rally in D.C. marching for the extermination of the Jews?
10 posted on 04/20/2002 11:49:51 AM PDT by AF68
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To: buffalo124
Ha Ha Good one. Congratulations, you are now indoctrinated.
11 posted on 04/20/2002 11:50:50 AM PDT by L`enn
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To: scratchgolfer
This Jew thanks all his evangelical Christian friends for their support of Israel.
12 posted on 04/20/2002 11:51:55 AM PDT by mrustow
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Ariel Sharon must be tried for war crimes in the Hague for the exact same alledged crime as Milosovik. the only difference between what Sharon and Milosovik did is that at least Milosivik did it in his own country. The IDF in massacreing old people, women and children in Jenin had envaded Palistine.Good for the Goose!

Let's see some evidence for your blood libel. Your goose is cooked!

P.S. You forgot to charge that the Jews kill gentile children, and use their blood in the baking of Passover matzos. I guess you were saving that one for another post.

13 posted on 04/20/2002 11:55:46 AM PDT by mrustow
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To: buffalo124
Today must be the biggest day of the year for you.
14 posted on 04/20/2002 11:57:04 AM PDT by mrustow
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It's amazing how the Christian right allowed itself to get seduced by the neocons. How sad. The conservative movement has no future if this keeps up.
15 posted on 04/20/2002 11:58:54 AM PDT by traditionalist
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More than 90% of the Jenin dead were young, male, armed soldiers of Islamic Jihad.
16 posted on 04/20/2002 12:00:55 PM PDT by crystalk
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It isn't just because I am a part of the Christian Right, it isn't that I am a republican, it isn't the fact that I am a patriot and Ex-Marine...It's because Islam is the self described enemy of Christianity and the Jews...this is a religious war....and I can't understand why no one wants to see that Truth!
17 posted on 04/20/2002 12:02:26 PM PDT by SolomonSemperFi
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When the Neo-Cons and the Christian conservatives got together, for the first time in a generation the Right took the Congress. You probably preferred the politics of the 60's and 70's.
18 posted on 04/20/2002 12:04:00 PM PDT by Sabramerican
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To: Positive
"I am conscious of President Washington’s admonitions about 'foreign entanglements,' yet I have no problems coming to a stand on what is going on in Israel."

Whenever people throw Washington's Farewell Address in your face, just remind them that he was talking about countries two months away from the U.S. No sensible American politician, at any point in our nation's history, has ever suggested that we ignore events taking place within a day of our borders—but thanks to modern transportation, that now encompasses the whole globe. Washington was a great and wise man, but he didn't foresee jet aircraft, ballistic missiles or nuclear submarines. That "foreign entanglements" quote is a great argument for remaining neutral with respect to warring tribes of Martians or Venusians, but events here on Earth have passed it by.

19 posted on 04/20/2002 12:05:27 PM PDT by Fabozz
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Leftists have a problem understanding it, and trace it to things that seem unusual to them. On the one hand, as useful idiots they are reflexively pro-Palestinian, and imagine that all the world is unless they have some special reason not to be. On the other hand, they have been screaming about the whole right as a bunch of goose-stepping Nazis for so long, they half believe it themselves. So they reach for explanations like this - its a Jewish conspiracy (of neocon traitors to the leftist cause), or it is some whacked out prejudice of bible thumpers (meant to appear stark raving mad).

I will relate a little history instead. The first president I was old enough to vote for was Ronald Reagan. The country was a basket case, run into the ground by a hapless president. Gas lines were miles long. Oil was soaring to $40 a barrel. The country was humiliated for over a year by insane kidnappers in Teheran. A late military attempt to rescue them ended in fiasco. The Iranians displayed wreckage and body parts on international television. Meanwhile, Irsael was being condemned by the chattering classes for bombing a nuclear reactor in Iraq.

A few years later, Israel had enough of the PLO and went into Lebanon. When the US tried to broker a cease fire and Israeli withdrawl, and put our own men in harm's way to protect the Palestinians, Islamic radicals blew up 250 of them. They captured our pilots and held them hostage. Numerous American civilians were held hostage in Lebanon on one pretext or another.

In all of this, the clear impression was that very nasty people were out for our blood, and only the Israelis had the guts to stand up to them. Reagan was better than Carter, but still tread softly with the Arabs. Later we had to fight Saddam, and everyone told us it would be the end of the world if we tried. But he didn't have nukes, because somebody had the foresight to destroy his facilities long ago. He attacked Israel, which obeyed our demands to sit there and take it.

The attacks last fall were not the opening rounds in the current war. They were just the first time our enemies hit something here at home, hard enough that everybody really noticed. But some of us have been watching this war for 20 years, for the whole of our adult lives. Some of us were first seriously politicized by the Iran hostage crisis and the seeming inability of our government to do a darn thing about it. It was the symbol of the pathetic defeatism of the whole 1970s. Reagan and renewed American patriotism was a reaction against all that.

The enemies of Israel have been the enemies of America - and of the right in particular - for decades. The right has stood for standing up to such enemies, when the left has over and over again caved and appeased and wrung its hands. This is not new. It is not divorced from the issues of the present war, which did not just begin out of nowhere.

It is not a matter of personalities, identity politics, or recondite theological speculations. It is our direct political experience. The enemies of Israel have declared themselves our enemies, and they demand our submission. They have recently proven themselves rather dangerous. Which has simply brought more of the American middle over to views many of us on the right have held for 20 years.

Islamic radicalism declared war on us in 1979, when they first came to power in Iran, and there has never been any peace in that war. It has simply been burning hotter or colder, now and then, in this or that manifestation. That war is as much a part of the political consciousness of my generation, as the rise of communism was to earlier ones. Teheran was our October Revolution, and we drew up sides then and there.

Do not overlook that many of us have served in the meantime, or have had friends who have. When members of an international ideology want to kill you and your friends and your countrymen, it frees the mind of media cant. So yes, it is 9-11. It is also much older than 9-11. The right needs no urging to dislike Islamic radicals.

20 posted on 04/20/2002 12:07:03 PM PDT by JasonC
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