HOT! "Deathbed" Confession Transcript -- World Exclusive Iraqi intelligence tied to Terry Nichols

Insight Mag ^ | 04.19.02 | Timmerman

[sandydipper]

I believe it. Why is it that the F&BI (Fools & Bungling Idiots) have trouble carnering this information? The reason is that to admit Nichols had an Arab connection would be to admit that they are incompetent. Caught Terry - case closed!

[ctdonath2]

You show me the stats that prove it can happen

And likewise, you show me the stats that prove it cannot happen. Until then, all I've got to show are proportionate instances that make sense to me, and I await disproportionate examples from you.

[snip reference to blasting roads]

There's a difference between a relatively narrow free-standing column and a wide road suppored by the planet.

How come these columns are still standing?

Gee...might it have something to do with the fact they're designed to support 110 stories, as contrasted with 8 or so? (And did you notice that several floors are demolished?)

I was unaware that other buildings were razed due to damage. Which ones besides the federal building were razed?

Gee...that would be the ones across the street. Or were you unaware of the extent of the OKC damage?

Lifting floors?

Doesn't take much. Doesn't even have to separate from the support columns.

[philman_36]

And likewise, you show me the stats that prove it cannot happen.
And you show me the stats that it can. If they were readily available I would have already done so. I'll keep looking. In the mean time I suggest you look at Partin's report also. I've already given a link to the "experts" statements and testimony showing that he really has no clue as to what happened.
Until then, all I've got to show are proportionate instances that make sense to me, and I await disproportionate examples from you.
You've got what you presume to be "proportionate instances"? You've not even shown stats showing that what you believe is possible. Sounds to me like you're going on "gut instinct".
There's a difference between a relatively narrow free-standing column and a wide road suppored by the planet.
Yep, and even more so under explosive stress.
Gee...might it have something to do with the fact they're designed to support 110 stories, as contrasted with 8 or so? (And did you notice that several floors are demolished?)
Gee, might it be because the explosives were insufficient to do the job? And you obviously don't know diddly about steel W-beams either.
Yes, I saw that a large area on a couple of floors were damaged. Several floors were not demolished. You've a funny way of using the words damaged and demolished.
Gee...that would be the ones across the street.
Gee...like name the buildings if you know them. One "across the street" just needed repairs, as I've already linked. I can't find anything except the Murrah that was razed. Or is that something else I'm supposed to find for both of us?
Or were you unaware of the extent of the OKC damage?
I thought this conversation has been all about the extent of damage at OKC.
Here is a great picture. Which buildings were razed?

[philman_36]

Disaster Recovery Journal
Several buildings surrounding the Alfred P. Murrah building sustained damage also. The Oklahoma Water Resources and the Journal Records Buildings directly across the street sustained heavy damage to windows and offices. Parts of the federal building were actually blown into the face of these office buildings. The YMCA was also badly damaged from the blast as well as the First United Methodist Church, which suffered severe structural damage. The Federal Courthouse located directly behind the blast face of the Alfred P. Murrah building had several windows blown out.
Lots of damage, but I've not found anything about buildings being razed yet.
Do you find it funny that parts of the building were blown outwards? Shouldn't it all have been blown into the building as the truck was between the buildings? How do you explain that happening?
The Federal Courthouse, the "Old Post Office", Federal Office Building, the Metropolitan Library Building, and the C.R. Anthony Building all had similar damage from the blast.
Snip...BMS CAT worked around the clock to finish the restoration work, with over 90 management/supervisory staff and over 400 persons on the labor staff. Good organization was necessary in order to carry out an efficient and orderly restoration with over 530,000 square feet of buildings restored and all four of the previously mentioned buildings ready for reoccupancy on schedule Monday April 24.
That is four out of five ready for reoccupancy on schedule. Five are mentioned, but I don't know which one is left out.

[VaBthang4]

"I still don't see why Nichols & McVeigh needed any help. Fertilizer is cheap, the concoction's recipie is simple, construction is straightforward, and delivery was trivial. Why solicit aid from some third-world country when anyone reading this thread is entirely capable (i.e.: has money, information, and brains enough) of doing the same thing?"

Why?

Because apparently White Americans just wouldnt do this on their own.

Because the sinister machinations behind one world globalist and their back helicopters want us to think this was the doing of two simple hillbillies who had anger management problems.

The endless meanderings of these conpiracy theorists is growing boring.

Apparently we can all add the statements of a dead woman made to a phillipino as more evidence of the ignorance of the simple American populace.

"Black Helicopters"
"Black Helicopters"
"Black Helicopters"
"Black Helicopters"
GET A LIFE!

[philman_36]

There's no such thing as helicopters painted with radar absorbing black paint...There's no such thing as helicopters painted with radar absorbing black paint...
Disturbing the peace
On Feb. 8, 1999, a squadron of eight black helicopters flying at treetop level dropped a team of elite special operations soldiers into the center of Kingsville. For the next two hours the Army's Delta Force and Night Stalkers conducted a "mock battle" with live ammunition and real explosives that inadvertently set a building on fire.
Armed amd Dangerous
Norgrove added his confirmation that black helicopters do exist and have been flying around U.S. cities on training missions for years. WorldNetDaily has previously reported that Army public affairs officers have also confirmed such reports.
Old stuff!
Just believe...

[philman_36]

GET A LIFE!
Get a clue!

[philman_36]

And, Mr. thang, from Sanchez himself...
Army training spurs conspiracy fears
"This puts the Army in a very bad light," Sanchez said. "It scares citizens to see black unmarked helicopters and men jumping out of them in black Ninja suits."

[philman_36]

And here Mr. "thang"...
About Those Black Helicopters
Army spokesperson Carol Jones confirmed that all of the helicopters of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment -- nicknamed the "Nightstalkers" and stationed at Ft. Campbell, Kentucky -- are indeed black.
Maybe Carol shouldn't believe her lying eyes?

Plus, there are numerous civilian helicopters that are painted black.
...the ignorance of the simple American populace.
You're saying you're simple as well as ignorant? You shouldn't be so hard on yourself.
I'm ignorant of the language used here, but I sure am interested in that Jane's article... THE DISAPPEARING HELICOPTER. Jane's Defence Weekly, 32, 1999, s.23-26,

[philman_36]

Got bullet?

[Doc On The Bay]

A LOT of us "Inherited" the same "Learning Disability" from our Patriotic Forebears!!

We ALL have a "HEALTHY SKEPTICISM" of "Official Explanations" of Current, Momentous, Catastrophic Events!!

The "Information Leakage" about Current Events renders most "official Explanations" Highly Suspect!

The ONLY WAY ANY "Democratically Elected Government" can retain its Legitimacy, is to be ABSOLUTELY TRUTHFUL with it's Citizens!

There are TOO MANY SOURCES of verifiable facts available to EVERYONE for ANY government to attempt to LIE to it's Citizens!!

"Don't LIE TO US!!!"----We'll eventually "Figure It Out," & be REALLY P+SSED!!!

The ONLY WAY an Elected Government can retain it's Legitimacy is to TELL IT'S CITIZENS the "UNVARNISHED TRUTH-----"----& TRUST the PEOPLE!!!

The "Alternative" is "Rebellion & Chaos!!"

Trust Me!

Doc

[Doc On The Bay]

A LOT of us "Inherited" the same "Learning Disability" from our Patriotic Forebears!!

We ALL have a "HEALTHY SKEPTICISM" of "Official Explanations" of Current, Momentous, Catastrophic Events!!

The "Information Leakage" about Current Events renders most "official Explanations" Highly Suspect!

The ONLY WAY ANY "Democratically Elected Government" can retain its Legitimacy, is to be ABSOLUTELY TRUTHFUL with it's Citizens!

There are TOO MANY SOURCES of verifiable facts available to EVERYONE for ANY government to attempt to LIE to it's Citizens!!

"Don't LIE TO US!!!"----We'll eventually "Figure It Out," & be REALLY P+SSED!!!

The ONLY WAY an Elected Government can retain it's Legitimacy is to TELL IT'S CITIZENS the "UNVARNISHED TRUTH-----"----& TRUST the PEOPLE!!!

The "Alternative" is "Rebellion & Chaos!!"

Trust Me!

Doc

[ctdonath2]

Do you find it funny that parts of the building were blown outwards? ... How do you explain that happening?

What, do you really think everything in the destroyed section went straight down? Have you ever watched a building collapse, and observed debris blowing out?

[philman_36]

What, do you really think everything in the destroyed section went straight down?
Nope. You're implying I said something I didn't say. Since it isn't obvious to you, I would think that the direction would be inward, not down or outward. In which direction do you think the debris should have flown if the bomb was outside of the building?
Have you ever watched a building collapse, and observed debris blowing out?
Why, yes, I have. I've seen videos and TV shows of controlled demolitions of buildings and I saw WTC fall. Is that good enough or did you mean watching it live? If so, no. I missed an opportunity to see a small building dropped locally. OKC wasn't a controlled collapse though was it.
The "debris cloud" blowing out in a controled collapse of a building is usually dust, dirt, drywall, paper, powdered concrete and any number of other light particles/materials. Big chunks don't get blown out, they simply fall. It could harm someone or another building and the contractor could be held liable for damages. The video I saw showed the prepared pilings being wrapped with felt paper and chain link fence to minimize the flying debris. OKC wasn't a controlled collapse though was it.
Again, two different subjects. In which direction do you think the debris should have flown if the bomb was outside of the building? Oh, I get it. You believe the thrown objects happened when the collapse happened. Yeah, that debris went pretty much straight down. Gravity does that. I find it difficult to imagine solid debris flying yards away in the opposite direction of the blast due to simple collapse from overload sheering.

[AtticusX]

:::highfives the PhilMan:::

[philman_36]

:::highfives AtticusX:::

[rwfromkansas]

bump to myself for OKC info.

[TigersEye]

bttt to read later

[.30Carbine]

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