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Marine email: 5 of us held off crowd of 3,000 at US embassy in Bahrain.
email ^ | 4/18/02 | Marine Security Guard

Posted on 04/18/2002 1:31:31 PM PDT by LarryLied

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To: LarryLied
LOL...neither do I.

This is first time I've encountered such hostility in my six months as a freeper. She...has to be a she...reminds me of some of the women I'd meet in the Waldbaums chekout line back in NYC. I'm so glad I came south :-)

I was quite impressed when I read the email. The fellow who forwarded to me spent 36 years in the Air Force (fought in three wars) and I'm sure he wouldn't send me any government secrets. I wanted to share it with my fellow freepers. I did a thread search to see if there really was an attack that day, there was, and I came across the thread posted by you. I asked you to post my email as you had an interest in the subject matter. The email is "signed" by two people, with contact telephone and fax numbers, and it stated that it was "unclassified". I wouldn't have the slightest idea of how to link back to my email, 'tho many are upset that I didn't.

121 posted on 04/19/2002 9:57:44 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Nix 2
you aren't worthy of my respect...

What a joke!

You think I give a sh*t about your respect?
Each of your posts to me have been hysterical attacks.
I feel nothing but contempt regarding you!
I want no further contact with you...ever.

122 posted on 04/19/2002 10:17:43 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Beach_Babe
Thank you very much.
123 posted on 04/19/2002 10:21:53 PM PDT by Nix 2
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To: Beach_Babe
They don't care about the links or if the email is real or not. Because of what I've said on other threads, I am the target and they are trying to demean me. Constant baiting in the hope I will say something and be banned.

I knew this would happen and probably should have warned you. Had you been able to post this, none of this would have occurred. But then this thread did get a lot of attention and that is good. Americans do need to know there is more to our foreign problems than what is going on in the West bank.

I see you haven't posted much if at all on Mideast threads. This is quite an introduction, isn't it? Almost like the mideast itself...

124 posted on 04/19/2002 10:25:32 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Nix 2
I don't misread, LL. I read very clearly, and you very clearly implied that the Bahraini GOVERNMENT had asked the Fifth Fleet to leave

In reply # 90, I wrote:

The King of Bahrain is trying to stamp out the Shi'ite Hezbollah in the country as best he can. But there were more protests today. Now they want the US 5th Fleet to pull out. . .

The King of Bahrain is not several people. He is not a plural. The "they" refers to the protesters. If the government of Bahrain told us to get out, it would be on the front page of every newspaper. You would not read about it in a reply buried in a long thread on FR first.

Enough already with the nitpicking. You always try to say someone said, implied or thought something they did not. And you always lose. Give it a rest, OK?

125 posted on 04/19/2002 10:34:46 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: luvbach1
My father was a Marine F-4 driver. I've spent a lot of time around Marines up to and including being drummed out of the Corps myself (during boot camp so I can't claim to have ever even pretended to be a Marine).

To me, based on being around Marines my whole life, the text just doesn't sound right. That could just be the author though.

But there are other reasons...mostly mentioned on this thread. The biggest reason I don't believe it is that he would have had to have written this immediately after the action...such an email is a massive breach of protocol. I don't see a competent Marine, trained to guard an embassy in a hot country being this foolish.

126 posted on 04/19/2002 10:45:32 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: LarryLied
Yes, it does seem like you’d made a few enemies. And, no, I’ve never even viewed, much less posted on, any Mideast thread. I think I’ll continue to avoid them if this is a sample. And I thought the Irish were thickheaded! I was a lurker until flight 587 crashed into my old neighborhood. And no matter what the official line is, I’ll never believe that plane was brought down by wind turbulence or birds or loose bolts or prior storm damage or pilot error. I think Richard Reid was the 2nd shoe-bomber. I’ve also been involved with the petition started by Jeff Head to erect a historically correct FDNY firefighter statue. One of the firemen in that now famous photo is a close family friend. I’ve met some very nice people on those threads.
127 posted on 04/19/2002 11:03:35 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: LarryLied
BTW: The link they are all ranting about leads back to the Gulf Daily News article about this incident, correct?
128 posted on 04/19/2002 11:07:16 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Beach_Babe
Yes it does lead there. The reason is that I had to put in some URL in order to post. There probably is a way to do it without a URL but I don't know how with the new software. There ws no intent to deceive anyone as some have claimed. The Gulf Daily News comes out every night. A legitimate site which carries news related to your email.

Did you catch that one of the Israel seminar posters apparently even ran to management and tried to get this thread pulled because of that?

I don't get it. Don't see why they think this email is so threatening that no one should be able to read it.

129 posted on 04/19/2002 11:19:20 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Beach_Babe
I was a lurker until flight 587 crashed into my old neighborhood. And no matter what the official line is, I’ll never believe that plane was brought down by wind turbulence or birds or loose bolts or prior storm damage or pilot error.

Until 9/11, I didn't think Flight 800 was anything but a fluke mechanical accident despite the numerous threads on FR claiming it was anything but. Now I believe it was brought down. A brave new world, we are in, isn't it?

btw...this thread is fairly tame compared to some of them. The one below is what really precipitated the comments to me you see on this one:

Wiesenthal raps EU endorsement of terror

It is not Politically Correct to point out that Simon Wiesenthal is not the great man some think him to be. As I quickly discovered...lol

130 posted on 04/19/2002 11:25:35 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
Logical place to link to, IMHO, I probably would have done the same. I'll check out the link you posted in #130 tomorrow, gotta go to bed now.
131 posted on 04/19/2002 11:36:24 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: LarryLied
I just read the thread this article is linked to and all I can say is "Whew..."

As my dear Jewish friend Marvin would say: "be glad you're not married to her/him...you'd have to live with that day in and day out for the rest of your life."

I think I'd better start a crash course on the Mideast and would appreciate it if you'd add me to your ping list. Thanks.

132 posted on 04/20/2002 9:00:47 AM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Beach_Babe
Lol...be glad to add you to the list. You'll need some weapons however. The seminar posters use Saul Alinksy's Rules for Radicals. Rule #13 is their favorite:

Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

#5 is popular with them too:

Ridicule is man's most potent weapon.

Not that any of these works. Conservatives see though them. But it is fun to keep track of how they shift from one of Saul's tactics to the next.

133 posted on 04/20/2002 11:43:40 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Beach_Babe, LarryLied
Mr. Lied is a big fan of Hillary's friend Saul Alinsky. Stick with Mr. Lied. You will learn all about such people and other Leftwing icons he touts here.
134 posted on 04/20/2002 11:52:25 AM PDT by veronica
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To: LarryLied
It is not Politically Correct to point out that Simon Wiesenthal is not the great man some think him to be.

You mean, Mr. Lied, people like President GW Bush? :)

135 posted on 04/20/2002 11:54:24 AM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica
A wonderful thread. Isn't it great how people who never paid attention to this subject much get such a powerful first impression?
136 posted on 04/20/2002 12:31:02 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
Isn't it great how people who never paid attention to this subject much get such a powerful first impression?

You mean the first impression you tried to pawn off about yourself here that you were pro Israel? Yes, indeedy, much was learned on that thread, Mr. Lied. Lots of valuable information.

137 posted on 04/20/2002 12:38:05 PM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica
Although he's been a Freeper a number of years, I only met LarryLied a few days ago when he did me the favor of posting the email I received. I've read a few of his posts on this and other threads and, IMHO, none of them warrant the hateful vindictive attacks that are made against him regularly by a small group of Freepers...which are in clear violation of Free Republic's "NO personal attacks" rule.

As an "outsider" it seems to me that this group is following Saul Alinsky's "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it" rule. This group almost seems to be stalking LarryLied.

BTW, I don't "stick" with any one person...I have a brain and I use it to make my own decisions.

138 posted on 04/20/2002 12:45:39 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: LarryLied
BTW - Mr. Lied. Since you linked to a story not about the actual email posted here, (which may or may not be real) - you don't mind if I link to yet another thread, do you?

Support For Israel Around The World (List of Rallies)

139 posted on 04/20/2002 12:46:42 PM PDT by veronica
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To: LarryLied
Beach_Babe's rules:

1. Keep your friends close to you, but keep your enemies closer.

(to be continued)

140 posted on 04/20/2002 12:48:17 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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