Israeli-Arab extremism - ILA razes `illegally-planted' Bedouin crops in the Negev

The Jerusalem Post - Ha'aretz ^ | 4/16/2002 - 2/15/2002 - 3/21/2002 | Evelyn Gordon - By Aliza Arbeli - By Ori Nir

[Phil V.]

fyi

The war on terrorism . . .

Cultivating transfer?

[neutrino]

Actually, I believe that "transfer" is the only viable solution.

Popular? No. But I see no basis to assume that the palies can or will live in harmony.

[LarryLied]

How do you transfer that many people? And how does Israel's economy survive while doing it? Europeans have thrown their lot in with the Arabs, they would boycott in a minute if Israel did that. France is negotiating a $6 billion dollar deal with the Saudis right now for fighter aircraft. They won't let that go because Israel wants to move a few million people

[BrooklynGOP]

Even if the crops had been planted illegally, he claimed, videotapes of planes destroying crops would evoke international outrage.

More PC crap from the left.

[Phil V.]

More PC crap from the left.

. . . like 40 acres and a mule?

[UbIwerks]

Actually, I believe that "transfer" is the only viable solution. Popular? No. But I see no basis to assume that the palies can or will live in harmony.

I think the Jerusalem Post is deluding itself in thinking that most Israelis consider transfer; i.e., expulsion of the Arabs repugnent.

The Kahane Website

[neutrino]

All good points, certainly. I suspect that Israel's economy could do well enough, but the entire world would (as you point out) howl indignantly.

That being said, the demographics of the situation suggest to me that no matter how expensive and painful such a decision might be, the alternative of national death is worse.

[Demidog]

Interesting way that the two stories were juxtaposed against one another. The story on the left is full of obvious misquotations but is designed to discredit the very Bedouin folks that are attacked by the ILA in the second article.

So the IDF has turned off the water and power in Ramalah and Jenin and is now destroying food crops and we're supposed to believe this is all part of a war on terrorism.

Bizarre.

[Demidog]

Oh geez....I got the pun..doh!

Looks more like cultivating genocide to me. Get out or die.

[BrooklynGOP]

More PC crap from the left. . . . like 40 acres and a mule?

Huh? Gotta love how liberals are willing not to enforce the law just so it looks better. If it were Jews in Israel illegaly planting on state land, and their crops got destroyed it wouldn't even make it to the paper? In fact, it never does.

[BrooklynGOP]

I think the Jerusalem Post is deluding itself in thinking that most Israelis consider transfer; i.e., expulsion of the Arabs repugnent.

I think you are deluding yourself in thinking that most Israelis are members of Kahane. In fact I think you are ignorant because the Kahane group was banned in Israel in 1994 . Will you respond to this post? Probably not. And if you do, will you address your own ignorance? Most definately not. Let's wait and find out.

[happygrl]

Yes, it does seem, unfortunately the the Israeli Arabs are cultivating transfer.

This is a very sad state of affairs.

The roots which cultivate identity politics are the same everywhere.

[Alouette]

now destroying food crops

Tell ya what. You just go ahead and plant a cornfield or an alfalfa field in state or national park. The go crying to the media when the Department of the Interior kicks your ass.

[Phil V.]

Yes, it does seem, unfortunately the the Israeli Arabs are cultivating transfer.

HERE is a very informative ("How did 'transfer' advocate Rehavam Ze'evi move from the heart of the defense establishment to the far-right fringe of Israeli politics? ") article from OCT 10th Jerusalem Post

[LarryLied]

There are not many alternatives. A wall. Transfer. An all out war. I was surprised to see today that the EU gives the PA $43 million a year for "doctors and teachers"--money which mostly ends up in Arafat's hands.

[Phil V.]

. . .You just go ahead and plant a cornfield or an alfalfa field in state or national park. ..

Actually, you've got it backward. It should read . . .You just go ahead and plant a national park in a cornfield or an alfalfa field . . .

It happens . . . It's just that in this country the "taking" is preceeded by just compensation for the land.

[UbIwerks]

I think you are deluding yourself in thinking that most Israelis are members of Kahane. In fact I think you are ignorant because the Kahane group was banned in Israel in 1994 . Will you respond to this post? Probably not. And if you do, will you address your own ignorance? Most definately not. Let's wait and find out.

I remember before Rabbi Kahane was kicked out of the Kenesett that some Israeli polling service conducted a special poll where the polling was done in a voting/ballotng type manner. That polling showed Rabbi Kahane's Kach party picking up several seats. The Israeli government cynically banned Rabbi Kahane from Knesset to try to stop his influence.

It was later in 1994 or 95 that the Israeli government smeared Kach as a terrorist organization and easily convinced the U.S. State Department to do the same.

The Kahane people refuse to suffer that insult in silence and try to get the ban and the terrorist label removed -- especially since the State Department fought tooth and nail to keep the PLO/PA off the State Department terrorist list.

I already showed Phil V the defense of the Kahane people against the terrorist smear (Who is a Terrorist).

Maybe when you wipe the foam off your mouth you can read it.

Shalom.

[BrooklynGOP]

It was later in 1994 or 95 that the Israeli government smeared Kach as a terrorist organization and easily convinced the U.S. State Department to do the same.

Ah, I see. So it has nothing to do with Kachane people killing a few palestinians here and there? Its all a smear?

Maybe when you wipe the foam off your mouth you can read it.

Maybe if you put the bottle down... but you won't.

[jonatron]

It's springtime...go plant a few square kilometers of crops on federal land, then get back to us and tell us what the feds do...I doubt you'd get off as easy as the bedouins.