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Bob Chase (NEA) Responds to National Home Education Network about Homeschooling
National Home Education Network ^ | February 26, 2002 | Bob Chase

Posted on 04/12/2002 11:17:07 AM PDT by hsmomx3

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To: Lizavetta
Well, I have one child who has an olive complexion, and the other two are fair skinned. Nah, I guess that won't work. By the way, nice to see you here!!
21 posted on 04/12/2002 12:59:24 PM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: Khepera
Citizen Khepera!!!

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Please report for arraignment before the People's Democratic Court.

If you ignore this directive, you will be declared an enemy of the state.

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22 posted on 04/12/2002 1:03:25 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: hsmomx3
They felt homeschooled students learned in a setting primarily made up [of] family members and friends.
.. so actually learning and being surrounding by family and friends is bad because...?



23 posted on 04/12/2002 1:04:28 PM PDT by TxBec
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To: hsmomx3
I'm dark skinned (Hispanic), but both my kids are to put it bluntly.. white :)

there is also German in me, so that should be quite enough "cultural diversity"

24 posted on 04/12/2002 1:07:32 PM PDT by TxBec
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To: 2JedisMom
oops got so caught up with doing the graphics, I forgot to actually "ping" you :)
25 posted on 04/12/2002 1:10:58 PM PDT by TxBec
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To: hsmomx3
The Association is very concerned about the education and well-being of all children, and works to ensure that they are taught in an environment conducive to effective learning

ROTFLMAO

26 posted on 04/12/2002 1:29:04 PM PDT by paul51
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To: Lizavetta; wasp69; cantfindagoodscreenname; BallandPowder; wyopa; joathome; Momto2; RipeforTruth...
Puh-duh-PING!
27 posted on 04/12/2002 2:08:14 PM PDT by 2Jedismom
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To: hsmomx3
Look at what moronic monsters we have as "teachers":

http://teachers.net/chatboard/


28 posted on 04/12/2002 2:10:31 PM PDT by toenail
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To: Registered
Re your post #20 - IMO, the Dem Party loses a lot of support from the LEFT with their narrow views about homeschooling.
29 posted on 04/12/2002 3:11:44 PM PDT by summer
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To: hsmomx3
From a homeschool dad of going on 13 or so years. Thanks for posting this. Every time I hear something from an offical of the NEA it jsut reinforces my determination to continue home schooling the last two left at home and watch the three that are out sprout their wings and soar.

PS: You needed to add a gag alert to this. (GRIN)

30 posted on 04/12/2002 5:23:00 PM PDT by SLB
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To: Registered
Mount Rushmore is *our* national monument!
31 posted on 04/12/2002 5:27:30 PM PDT by Domestic Church
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To: hsmomx3
"We know that parental involvement is imperative for school achievement, but delegates were concerned that home schools were not required to use state-approved curricula."

"State-approved curricula?" In other words, pro homo propaganda, multiculturalist, Christian bashing, anti-American, feminist, DemonRAT-socialist junk!
And no one with knowledge of the NEA believes that the NEA really wants parental involvement. What the NEA desires is parents paying higher and higher taxes to keep the "public school" monstrosity afloat.

32 posted on 04/12/2002 5:56:39 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: hsmomx3
Bump

Let's Help Nail the Teachers Unions -- It is National FReep Time (replies 14, 18 and 23)

33 posted on 04/14/2002 8:38:52 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: StormEye
"And no one with knowledge of the NEA believes that the NEA really wants parental involvement."

For those without the knowledge of the NEA:

"Teacher Unions and Parent Involvement" (http://www.educationpolicy.org/EPIseries/parent-bklt.htm)

"Grading the NEA - What Every Teacher Needs to Know About The National Education Association: A Special Report" (http://www.family.org/gradingthenea/news/a0012243.html)

34 posted on 04/14/2002 8:56:09 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: hsmomx3
At least he writes back. Even if it is canned NEA Dogma food.
35 posted on 04/15/2002 6:03:14 AM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
Bump
36 posted on 04/15/2002 7:08:01 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: EdReform
Could home school teachers join the NEA en masse and then take over the organization?
37 posted on 04/15/2002 7:31:32 AM PDT by rwt60
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To: hsmomx3;Pete;*Homeschool_list
"During the 1998 RA, delegates approved the policy on homeschooling. They were concerned that homeschooled students were not provided a comprehensive education experience because they did not have an opportunity to interact with students of different cultures, economic status, or learning styles."


The myth of socialization: Kyle Williams debunks lies about home-schooling



To: JohnHuang2

In 1994, the US Department of Education conducted a review of the available studies concerned with the socialization of homeschooled children. For the purposes of their review, they defined 'socialization' in the context of interpersonal and communications skills. While they admit that further research is needed (realize this report is from 1994), their conclusions shatter the myth. Remember, this is from the US DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION!

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Another socialization-related accusation faced by home educators is that of overprotecting their children from the real world. If this is true, however, at least one researcher (Bliss, 1989) does not consider this to be a serious problem. She argues that "Protection during early, developmental years for purposes of nurturing and growth is evident in many arenas: plant, animal, and aquatic. Why should it be considered wrong or bad in the most vital arena, human development?"

Stough (1992),looking particularly at socialization, compared 30 home-schooling families and 32 conventionally schooling families, families with children 7-14 years of age. According to the findings, children who were schooled at home "gained the necessary skills, knowledge, and attitudes needed to function in society...at a rate similar to that of conventionally schooled children." The researcher found no difference in the self concept of children in the two groups. Stough maintains that "insofar as self concept is a reflector of socialization, it would appear that few home-schooled children are socially deprived, and that there may be sufficient evidence to indicate that some home-schooled children have a higher self concept than conventionally schooled children."

This echoes the findings of Taylor (1987). Using one of the best validated self-concept scales available, Taylor's random sampling of home-schooled children (45,000) found that half of these children scored at or above the 91st percentile--47% higher than the average, conventionally schooled child. He concludes: "Since self concept is considered to be a basic dynamic of positive sociability, this answers the often heard skepticism suggesting that home schoolers are inferior in socialization" (Taylor, 1987).

From the findings of these two studies, it would appear that the concerns expressed by teachers, administrators, and legislators about socialization and home schooling might be unfounded. Indeed, Bliss (1989) contends that it is in the formal educational system's setting that children first experience negative socialization, conformity, and peer pressure. According to her, "This is a setting of large groups, segmented by age, with a variation of authority figures...the individual, with his/her developmental needs, becomes overpowered by the expectations and demand of others--equal in age and equally developmentally needy."

Webb (1989), one of the few researchers who has examined aspects of the adult lives of wholly or partly home-educated people, found that all who had attempted higher education were successful and that their socialization was often better than that of their schooled peers.
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The bottom line is this: Problems with 'socialization' was a myth create and spread by groups like the NEA who have an economic and political incentive to discredit homeschooling. Since 1994, the Department of Education has had pursuasive evidence that homeschooled children are equally or better socialized than their public school peers - yet, the myth continues.

88 posted on 4/29/02 11:13 AM Pacific by Pete



Well, Bob Chase -- care to comment?

38 posted on 04/29/2002 12:23:16 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: hsmomx3
I predict that within five years(maybe ten), homeschooling will be effectively criminalized. Oh, it may still be legal in some instances, but they will make it so that the "State" has all control over what is learned. I assume they will HRS to bankrupt any parents who insist on homeschooling.
39 posted on 04/29/2002 12:34:43 PM PDT by FreeTally
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To: FreeTally
I regrettably agree with you!!
40 posted on 04/29/2002 1:41:57 PM PDT by hsmomx3
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