The United States Is In Deep Doo Doo!

Aircraft &Yacht Owners Communications Centre Online ^ | Summer 2001 | Speaker-Rep.James Traficant Jr.(Ohio)

[Issaquahking]

Once in a while an article really is worth a reprint. For educational purposes only. Special thanks to Goddess50.

[Issaquahking]

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[Issaquahking]

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[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

Shouting is rude!!!

[BranMakMorn]

What is the point this person is trying to make? He rambles on and on in a LOUD FONT without making much sense. Is there an argument buried in here somewhere? And what is the Aircraft & Yacht Owners Communications Centre Online anyway?

[amom]

Thanks for the heads up and reminder.

Eagles Up!

[Issaquahking]

Welcome to FR.

In regard to property rights, this explains exactly why the government is so hellbent on getting people to move to the cities, he is telling you (in the simplest terms possible) the country has been stolen out from under you (by our government) and handed over as "collateral" for debt. We are in for the fight of our lives yet to hold on to this country. Notice that Mr Traficant is on trial at this time? They want him gone because of his courage on some issues like this(Isaid that about a democrat?).

Check in with Alamo Girl at the welcoming desk

[Issaquahking]

Sorry the font is so loud, but after messing with it for more time than I wanted to spend with it, decided to go for post. The message is too important to let slide by, made my blood run cold, a worthy read.

[Chuckster]

Hmmmmmmmmmm

[Carry_Okie]

If you don't like the font, in IE5 you can select "View" and then "Font Size" and adjust it to your liking.

[brityank]

But Nixon had to collateralize that debt somehow, and he hit upon the plan of quietly setting aside huge tracts of American land with their mineral rights in reserve to cover the outstanding debts. But since the American people were already angered over the war in Vietnam, Nixon couldn't very well admit that he was apportioning off chunks of the United States to the holders of foreign debt. So, Nixon invented the Environmental Protection Agency and passed draconian environmental laws which served to grab land with vast natural resources away from the owners and lock it away, and even more, prove to the holders of the foreign debt that US citizens were not drilling. mining, or otherwise developing those resources. From that day to this, as the government sinks deeper into debt, the government grabs more and more land, declares it a wilderness or "roadless area" or "heritage river" or "wetlands" or any one of over a dozen other such obfuscatorial labels, but in the end the result is the same. We The People may not use the land, in many cases are not even allowed to enter the land.

This is not about conservation, it is about collateral. YOUR land is being stolen by the government and used to secure loans the government really had no business taking out in the first place. Given that the government cannot get out of debt, and is collateralizing more and more land to avoid foreclosure, the day is not long off when the people of the United States will one day wake up and discover they are no longer citizens, but tenants.

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[Aquamarine]

Bump!

[rodeocowboy]

And, the trade unions tried circumventing the free market's employee/employer relationship cycle causing the prices of everything to rise so much that it can't compete with foriegn products. Look at why our steel industry is in so much trouble.

[AUgrad]

Bump

[hedgetrimmer]

Wayne and Helen Chenowith Hage BUMP!

[BranMakMorn]

(Thanks for the welcome - I will check that site out)

It looks like he cut and pasted things together. There's a long diatribe about how things are bad in America because TVs and VCRs and other items are made overseas. Then he jumps into a discussion about the monetary system of the U.S. and the Federal Reserve - he makes more sense there about the benefits of a gold standard. Starts losing it when he talks about the EPA as a hedge against a run on the debt, and then the notion that the government is propping up stock prices by encouraging online investing (?).

He's also making the fallacious argument that selling and manufacturing goods is the only way to build wealth and that selling services is somehow 'bad' in comparison (maybe because services are intangible, I don't know). He says that lawyers are bad - I wonder if he thinks all the other service workers like doctors, teachers, accountants, police officers, firemen, priests, coaches, musicians, laborers, etc. are worthless to society as well. How exactly is the U.S. richer if we all work in factories?

[Issaquahking]

We cannot be a nation of "service workers" and expect to advance as a society. It's about natural resources and the management of them. Second teir is support industry that actually makes the harvesting of the resources possible, and so on, and so forth. If you don't control the resources of your country, how will your country ever hope to prosper? We are the only country in the world where we have property rights like we do. You obviously are not relizing how important that concept is....This country is free because we have fought to keep it that way....damn anyone who thinks that they can waltz on in here and take it away( read up on the U.N. agenda's...we have days of reading here in the forum on who,what,when,why,where and how they operate).

[RHINO369]

No you are wrong we can be a nation of service workers, because we own all the foreign means of production. I'd rather let some starving chinamen get money to live and give the factory worker here keeping track of their expenses. Most imporantly in a high tech era we are the ones coming up with the lastest and greatest so they have to keep coming to us to buy the ideas. I see no challenge to American power, that has any chance of working, except Russia if in 50 years it can get its act together. The only way we will fail is if we lose are cowboy capitalist additude which is uniqly american.