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NRO ^ | April 8, 2002 | Jonah Goldberg

[LibertarianLiz]

of the occupying army

"Occupying" is a nice word to say that the Israelis are on land that they won from the surrounding nations who invaded them some years ago.

There is already a "Palestinian" state --- it's called Jordan.

[Dr. Frank fan]

Yeah, you challenged those claims and I defended them.

Really? I must have missed that "defense". Let's review. You in #23: assertion that the "Palestinians" have the "right" to "their own state". Me in #24: No, they don't, no one has such a "right", where does it come from? You in #30: "we're arguing past each other".

Was there a post I missed? Was that your entire "defense" of the supposed Right To Have a Racial-Ethnically Homogeneous State Wherever you Live?

Answers to your questions: 1. yes and no. 2. yes and no.

Thus proving Goldberg correct. Thanks for playing.

[Dr. Frank fan]

A nation doesn't have the moral right to subjugate another people in their own land with military force.

Who said anything about "subjugate"? "Subjugating" a people is not the same as "handing over a bunch of land to them so they can have their own ethnically-homoegenous state because they are delusionally fixated upon it".

Let alone is it the same as merely "preventing people from murdering".

Unless, of course, those people are just so darn naturally murderous that to prevent them from murdering is a crime against their nature, and they must be allowed to murder with abandon. Is that what you think of "Palestinians"? Lemme know....

[Dr. Frank fan]

"handing" = "NOT handing"

[Dr. Frank fan]

Right, they're totally opposite.

See #45. And no, Not Handing Over Land For An Ethnic State Which A Noisy Murderous Subset Of Them Are Obsessed With is not the same as "subjugation".

Had coffee, yet?

At the time I omitted the word "not", no, I think I had not. But now I have. :)

"naturally murderous"? You lose.

You're the one who apparently thinks that the nature of the "Palestinians" is such that any attempt to stop them from murdering amounts to "subjugation". As usual I was just following your statements to their logical conclusion. As usual I guess this was wrong of me, and I "lose".