Clinton's Retrospective Job Approval at 51% Reagan, Carter, Ford and Kennedy are more + now...

Gallup Organization ^ | 4-8-02 | Anon

[randog]

Martyrdom can do wonders for your career.

[sanchmo]

Strange categorization.

I'd label it this way instead:
Highest: Kennedy.
High regard: Reagan, GHW Bush.
Median: Ford, Carter.
Low regard: Clinton, Johnson,
Lowest: Nixon.

[finnman69]

There was a great quote from Semenstain recently where he poo pooed his rating among historians. Essentially he said they are all biased against him. He also said he would be happy if out of 42 Presidents he was ranked 22. (F'in LIAR!) ROFLMAO!!!

CLINTON LEGACY...GOING DOOOOOOWWWWWWNNNNNNNN!!!

[Cicero]

The only things many of those polled know about these presidents is what they read in the press or learned in school. And that's reflected in the results. The press idolizes JFK, and that clearly shows, even though his presidency was full of major failures (the Bay of Pigs, the assassination of Diem) and very few accomplishments. The press never had much use for Lyndon Johnson despite the War on Poverty, because of Vietnam, and that shows too. And the press has never ceased to castigate Nixon for Watergate--and that certainly shows.

I'm afraid what these results show is that in the future Clinton will be evaluated more by his reputation in the press and the history books than by what he actually did. So, much depends on whether lying liberals continue to control the stream of information that most people see.

[BluH2o]

JFK was by most measures a complete failure as president, but martyrdom and a fawning press can do wonders for one's reputation.

Fellow Massachusetts native and Editor of the Washington Post, Ben Bradley, practically lived at the WH during the Kennedy years. His boss, Katherine Graham, owner of the Washington Post was equally enamoured with the Kennedys'. This was the same paper that 10 years later, allied with the NY Times, played such a large role in Nixon's downfall.

[anniegetyourgun]

ALSO HERE

[palo verde]

It was the youth in Mexico who put President Fox in Office, versus the liberal candidate
And the youth in USA voted for George W Bush, rather than Al Gore
I think the tide of history has moved past liberalism
and youthful idealism is now focused on freedom

I think clinton was a gangster who pretended to be a liberal to dupe liberals
At the time of the election my father-in-law, a life-long union man and Democratic voter who liked Bill Bradlee
voted for George W because he said ''we have to get those crooks out of there''
He clearly saw clinton was a criminal, but I don't know how much of our country did
Love, Palo

[eureka!]

"I'm afraid what these results show is that in the future Clinton will be evaluated more by his reputation in the press and the history books than by what he actually did. So, much depends on whether lying liberals continue to control the stream of information that most people see."

True, however, with the advent of the internet future "researchers" will pull up both sides of the story, including the true one. Whether they report it accurately, however, is of course your point. Let us hope that liberalism is indeed on the wane and the same holds true for academia. Oh, to dream....

[Nexus]

bttt

[Pharmboy]

Somehow I searched and missed it. Sorry.

(Better late than never)

[FreedomPoster]

Can someone tell me what JFK accomplished that leads to his high positives? AFAICT, kicking off the space program is about it.

[FreedomPoster]

Sounds like you folks see it about like I do regarding JFK. See my post just above.

[Pharmboy]

JFK was 1) a Democrat (which makes him a darling of the media); 2) good looking (which only increases number 1) above); 3) he married a sweet sorta pretty girl and 4) he was a Democrat.

Media rule number 1: You can do no wrong if you are a Democrat.

Media rule number 2: You can do no right if you are a Republican.

[SoCal Pubbie]

Here is a quiz for everyone. Name an accomplishment or defining event, real or imagined, from every administration since Eisenhower. Just the first thing that comes to mind. Here goes.

JFK-Space program, Cuban Missile Crises
LBJ- Great Society
Nixon- Ending war in Vietnam, establishing EPA
Ford-Recovering from Watergate
Carter-Nothing
Reagan-Economic recovery, fall of Communism
Bush 1- Gulf War
Clinton-Big fat nothing
Bush 2- War on terror

Clinton has NOTHING to fall back on, no redeeming social value, as it were. The great jobs and boom times of the nineties will be remembered like the Roaring Twenties- just the calm before the storm. His legacy is toast!

[FreedomPoster]

I'll point out that Kennedy helped create the Cuban Missile Crisis, by not booting Castro via Bay of Pigs in the first place. Would have never happened if Kennedy had stood firm against Soviet Communist expansionism in the Western Hemisphere in the first place. Creating a problem that you later manage to half-solve, at great risk, doesn't seem like much of an accomplishment to me.

[SoCal Pubbie]

I said, real or IMAGINED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dianna]

JFK was 1) a Democrat (which makes him a darling of the media); 2) good looking (which only increases number 1) above); 3) he married a sweet sorta pretty girl and 4) he was a Democrat.

You forgot 5) was assassinated; 6) was assassinated and 7) was assassinated. If he had lived, would we be hearing nearly as much about him as we do?

[Pharmboy]

You are 1) right; 2) correct and 3) spot on.

But, assassination is neither necessary nor sufficient for media adulation unless one is first and foremost a Democrat.