Conflict Begins A New Debate On End Times

THE WASHINGTON TIMES | April 6, 2002 | Larry Witham

[Icthus]

OK Freepers....What's your take?

[ipatent]

What a nut case Hal Lindsey is. We're liable to get sucked into a ME war because of this lunacy.

[Icthus]

Yea I know, Hagee is a nut as well.

[neutrino]

Anytime the vast majority of people expects any major event to occur, it won't. Remember such things as...the fear of nuclear war? Or, more recently, Y2K? Or all the people who expected the dollar to go down, and gold to go up? Or, for that matter, those who expected the stock market to go to 36,000 +?

Quite aside from any biblical injucntion against date setting, if bunches of people expect the current conflict to be the end of the world, it won't be.

[Recovering_Democrat]

These debates do nothing to further the Spiritual Kingdom and, in my opinion, can frighten people needlessly. I urge those who have the desire to learn more about the Preterist view of the End Times to go to this web site (it isn't a cult, okay??):

Preterism

God bless.

[Governor StrangeReno]

Find me someone who knows the original aramaic version and that can cure lepers-then I'll give you a comment but yes Matthew 24:6 wars and rumours of wars is where we're seemingly at.

[Icthus]

The posting of the article was in no way meant to insinuate that all Christians were buying into the idea....

I simply wanted to get a feel for what most of the Freepers felt about it, especially in light of the current events. This subject has always provided ample room for ideas and debate.

[Governor StrangeReno]

The sixth seal could frighten people needlessly,if its allready happened what year did those 200 million men have a squabble?

[constitutiongirl]

There have always been wars and rumours of war. Especially in that part of the world. That earth has probably soaked up more blood than any other on the planet. Can you think of anytime in history that there haven't been at least 10 armed conflicts on any given day?

[pgkdan]

...Matthew 24:6 wars and rumours of wars is where we're seemingly at.

I'll agree that there are wars and rumors of wars, but when, in all of recorded history, has this not been the case?

[pgkdan]

You beat me to it.

[Dog Gone]

Yep, and on October 22, 1844, much of America expected Jesus to come down in the clouds to take them to Heaven, based on the writings of Daniel and Revelation.

This is nothing new.

[Governor StrangeReno]

Well we have an Israeli-jewish state with Jerusalem at its capital Oslo ran from 9-13-1993 to 9-13-2000 it was a seven year 'peace and security accord and after it on 9-11-2000 sudden destruction did come,we're certainly headed for one world government,and much more which statistically if you apply to someones dissertations from 2000-2600 years ago have about a one in ten to the power of 8 probability-somethins happening which either involves God or the greatest conspiracy you could think of

[Recovering_Democrat]

I understand, and my post was in no way meant to be critical of you. :) I hope it wasn't interpreted that way; my apologies if I was a bit o'er the top.

[Recovering_Democrat]

The sixth seal could frighten people needlessly,if its allready happened what year did those 200 million men have a squabble?

I guess the same year that giant beast with ten horns and seven heads came out of the sea. ;-) Seriously, I won't engage in a tit-for-tat about each element of eschatology. I've given a reasonable source for those who are open to a very reasonable view of scripture. I hope you'll avail yourself of it, and keep an open mind. God bless.

[RaceBannon]

This is leading up to tthe final event that will usher in the Anti-Christ. This series of actions COULD be what precedes the Rapture.

In Revelation 18, Jeremiah and Isaiah, the city of Babylon is mentioned as having been destroyed, yet, Babylon has NEVER been destroyed to the extent that the Bible describes, also, in Rev 18, there is a system of commerce that is world noticed. That is NOT the present state of Babylon. I believe we are seeing the foundation for an invasion into Iraq that takes out Saddam and places in a leader who will allow a peace movement lead by an amalgamation of religions, leading to a one world religion, headquartered in Babylon. we will also se a European leader rise up who will create a treaty with Israel, a 7 year treaty. He is the Anti-Christ.

I believe we have no more than 5 years left before the tribulation.

[Recovering_Democrat]

Yes, Dog. Thank you. :)

[crystalk]

Isaiah 13 and 14 deal more exactly with where we are at this minute, and culminating with the destruction of the Palestinians.

Destruction of Damascus, as per Isa. 17, may also be near.

Daniel ll:39-42 describe the near-future lightning-invasion and remaking of the Mideast map by the USA.

Joel 3, or the entire book. Zechariah, most of book. Ovadia, one page is entire book.

Key: the Abomination of Desolation, spoken of by Daniel and Jesus, is the Dome of the Rock and al-Aqsa mosques on the Temple Mount, and they are "soon" (months to a few yrs) to go.

[Ciexyz]

Jesus advised us to be ready, for no one knows the date or time of his return. Therefore we all need to be spiritually prepared, but we should NOT attempt to predict when He might return (and as many interpret the scriptures, his return will trigger the battle of Armageddon). We have all the answer we need: He will come as a thief in the night.

[Snidely Whiplash]

The Revelation of St. John is not a science-fiction novel, and it's helpful if people don't try to read it like one. It might be more worrisome if the "The End Is Near" folks hadn't been saying just that for the past, oh, 2000 years. Unfortunately, they've been jumping at shadows for two millennia.

Regards,
Snidely