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Evolution: What is it? (long article)
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| Craig McClarren
Posted on 04/04/2002 10:05:32 AM PST by Heartlander
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To: f.Christian
You sure do like the word "morph" ... Was it in your spelling list recently?
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posted on
04/04/2002 3:16:32 PM PST
by
Junior
To: Junior
I see it on computers...only---except in your mind---empty head!
To: SengirV
Yet again, you are showing your lack of reading comprehension. Yet again you show your lack of math comprehension.
But, I am wasting my time, I know. I would rather talk with real brains, like my husband (mensa qualifier and aced college calc in 10th grade - and oh yeah... new earth creationist... his evolutionist college profs didn't like the questions he asked.)
I'm still wondering how life can come from non life... of course, it MUST have happened because of course there can't be a God. Fine. If you admit your faith is what it is I am fine with that. Yes, we have faith that an intelligence without beginning exists that created all this. You have faith that somehow, everything came from nothing, that life came from non-life, that intelligence came from nothing, that everything proceeds at the same rate today as it did thousands of years ago when you weren't there because while at once you say that the world was different X^Y number of years ago, you also assume that things change at the same rates they do right now. (e.g. erosion - carbon 14 deterioration etc.)
I am not going to convince you. Either real life will, or you will learn when it is too late. That's all I can say.
To: f.Christian
Dr. Physicist...Sadly, I must confess that I did NO graduate work. I was more interested in getting my family going.
To: Terriergal
I'm still wondering how life can come from non life... of course, it MUST have happened because of course there can't be a God.No. You're applying your reasoning backwards. You're assuming there is a God, and therefore It created life.
The scientific method assumes that real answers can be found, without applying unanswerable mystic solutions, and therefore works to discover methods whereby known natural law can explain the origin of life.
Since a satisfactory scientific theory of life's origin's does exists, there is no rational reasons to pretend that "God" had anything to do with it.
To: SengirV
Here are a couple more links to help you understand what simple geometry and trigonometry can help us do I could have slept through geometry and trig and passed them.
To: Terriergal; RadioAstronomer; ThinkPlease
Comparing the distance to the moon with the distance to the nearest star is kind of silly. Making the the gratuitous assertion that we can't accurately measure the distance to the nearest star when, in fact, we can measure it with an accuracy of better than a fraction of one percent is "kind of silly."
Do the math: the parallax of Proxima Centauri is about 0.764 arc seconds. Our ground based equipment can measure angles down to about 0.001 arc seconds. This gives an accuracy of 0.13% This also means we can measure distance by parallax method out to a distance of 100 parsecs (over 300 light years for those of you who didn't pay attention in Astronomy class) with an accuracy of 10%.
New equipment coming on line in a few years should provide nearly a THOUSAND-fold increase in that accuracy.
Your claim that we cannot accurately measure distances to nearby stars is utterly NOT TRUE.
To: Junior
People watch movies--cartoons and are entertained---amused---
even brainwashed--indoctrinated because reality--judgement is suspended...
permanently suspended/brainwashed--indoctrinated(morphed-twisted)?
To: 1/1,000,000th%
Sinking the eight ball on the break everytime and that is why evolution--morphing is indisputable...
like the Golden plates of joseph smith nobody else ever saw!
Just like 5 aces and nothing wild beats a royal straight flush---cheaters-liars---stacked-morphed deck--hand!
We're supposed to take their word on it---give our money--lives--souls...never see it--them!
To: Terriergal
Yet again you show your lack of math comprehension.
I'm telling you how to measure the the distance to stars within 100 light years and you tell me I have a lack of math comprehension? I'm trying to tell you that for over 30 years we can reliably hit an 18 square inches target from 239,000 miles away while we are moving at roughly 500MPH( Earth's rotational speed around 40 deg latitude) and the target is moving at .636 miles persecond(orbital speed). Given this information, you continue to argue that we don't have the abiltiy to handle this simple concept. Please show your ohh so intelligent husband this post and let him decide how nuts you sound. Unless you are one of those "We didn't go to the moon" nuts as well.
I have a profound belief in God, and I believe that we can't begin to comprehend him/her/gender neutral. But I know one thing we can attempt to understand, his creation known as the Universe. And unless he is playing a big trick on us, the universe is about 15 billion years old.
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posted on
04/04/2002 3:52:48 PM PST
by
SengirV
To: longshadow
Your claim that we cannot accurately measure distances to nearby stars is utterly NOT TRUE. But like a good creationist, she will persist in her claim nevertheless.
To: Terriergal
To: PatrickHenry
Batteries are not charged when they are made---just before they are used.
Same with "time" and distance when you put a battery in a clock---off of the shelf it starts ticking!
At some pt. our solar system was a million times bigger than it is now...the galaxies too...don't you think?
Earth was a vast spiralling cloud circling the sun...a solar furnace collecting--heating up---
over the distances we are just looking at the "stretch" traces---marks(not time)?
When did the clock--time start?
Relative to what do we know if matter-time is still shrinking if the rate--SIZE is constant---proportional?
Will we be condensed dust?
There are shifts and jumps we have no way of knowing of--- just thinking from our own time-space frame is ridiculous!
To: PatrickHenry
...over the distances we are just looking at the "stretch(shrink)" traces---marks(not time)?
To: f.Christian
Batteries are not charged when they are made---just before they are used. That depends on the battery type. The typical chemical-metal sandwich (voltaic pile) is charged when the ingredients are assembled. The current comes from the oxidation of the metal, not from a stored charge.
To: VadeRetro
ok...I meant car batteries obviously---less the acid!
To: all
'happy'--"hour"...later--maybe!
To: Heartlander
8 UN-ETHICAL EXAMPLES OF ACADEMIC LICENSE OR FRAUD BY SELF AGGRANDIZING (MACRO-EVOLUTIONARY) "EXPERTS" WHO HOLD THEIR INTERPRETATIONS TO BE INFALLIBLY TRUE.
COMMON SENSE & REASON, NOT TO MENTION EMPIRICALLY CONSISTENT EVIDENCE, "REQUIRE" THE EXACT SAME BONES BE PHOTOGRAPHICALLY REPRESENTED EVERY TIME THEY'RE SHOWN! ARBITRARILY ASSEMBLING BONES FROM A PILE IN YOUR LAB AND THEN PRESENTING THEM AS "PROOF" OF YOUR ORIGINAL FIND IS THE HEIGHT OF ACADEMIC ARROGANCE, UN-PROFESSIONAL SCIENCE AND EMPIRICAL FRAUD. METAPHYSICAL SCIENCE IS A "RELIGION" THAT ARBITRARILY DEFINES WHAT IS TRUE AND REJECTS ANY EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE THAT FALSIFIES IT!
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE SERIOUSNESS OF THESE FRAUDULENT REPRESENTATIONS OF THE "EVOLUTION OF MAN"? NO? WELL, IT IS THIS. WE THE STUDENTS AND PUBLIC, OR AS SOME ACADEMICS SAY THE GREAT UNWASHED, HAVE BEEN DUPED INTO BELIEVING THE "FACT OF HUMAN EVOLUTION" BY AN ARROGANT, SELF-RIGHTEOUS (AND SELF-DECIEVED) SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY. A COMMUNITY, BY THE WAY, THAT REFUSES TO TOLERATE ANY PUBLIC PRESENTATION OF EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE THAT COULD FALSIFY THEIR METAPHYSICAL, OR MORE ACCURATELY, RELIGIOUS BELIEFS!
THESE JACKALOPIAN RECONSTRUCTIONS, BY MACRO-EVOLUCYISTS, HAVE BEEN ARRANGED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DOGMA DOCTRINE OF "MONKEY TO MAN MAME" MACRO-EVOLUTIONARY FAITH!
AS ABSURD AS THE SCIENCE COMMUNITY WILL OBVIOUSLY SAY THIS ILLUSTRATION IS, THE FACT REMAINS, IT IS AS LEGITIMATE A METAPHYSICAL POINT OF VIEW AS THEY HAVE FORCED DOWN SOCIETY'S THROAT FOR THE PAST 60+ YEARS! NEITHER THIS ILLUSTRATION OR THEIRS CAN BE CONCLUSIVELY VERIFIED OR FALSIFIED BY THE EMPIRICAL SCIENTIFIC METHOD. BY FAITH, AND FAITH ALONE, YOU EITHER "BELIEVE IT OR NOT!"
Sorry bout the caps its all they had at the store and my monitor was running out of ink
To: SengirV
I'll believe in an old Universe with a constant, omnipotent, loving caretaker making sure things work the way they do. But evolution denies God as a caretaker, it denies that God has anything to do with how living things, and especially man, his greatest creation came about. So how can you reconcile evolution with the idea of a benevolent caretaker?
To: All
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posted on
04/04/2002 5:13:14 PM PST
by
Bob J
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