Posted on 04/02/2002 9:45:23 PM PST by VinnyTex
Vinnie, can you tell me how a tariff 'rapes' the South but leaves the North virgin? Was there anything in the tariff that kept the south from building its own factories?
Look at a map of the United States. Now, what region has the most coastline and warm weather ports.
1] Roberts compared Lincoln to Pol Pot ... said, in fact, that he was worse!
That is a calumny.
2] According to Roberts, "Lincoln urged his generals ...to use rape as a weapon of war..."
That is a calumny.
I ask you to do this because DiLorenzo is writing specifically about Dr. Keyes' column and my Foundation, and is defending the Roberts column in which these two calumnies occur. The points you mention are partially in the Roberts pice and partially not.
Old business first, if you would be so kind.
Cheers,
Richard F.
If that is not true then show me where it is not true. Evidence would be nice.
Those 'guys' were the duly elected members of the state legislature from the western counties who refused to go along with treason. The people who elected them fully suported the restored legislature. They didn't want to be associated with the mad men in Richmond defending a handful of corrupt millionaire plantation owners.
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Why we care about Lies told against Lincoln
Feb. 23rd, 2002
Your President and Academic Fellow, David Quackenbush, have been on the internet and at this site as a kind of truth squad this week. Lies, and malicious half-truths, told by a certain Professor DiLorenzo, of Loyola College in MD have aroused our concern ... not to say our ire ... and you all deserve a straightforward reason why we feel and act as we do.
It's very simple.
Lincoln, more than any other American statesman, understood himself to be acting from Declaration Principles.
This Foundation is about acting from Declaration Principles.
Your Chairman, Ambassador Alan Keyes, and your President are on record numerous times as holding that Lincoln did exemplify those principles. It becomes our duty, then to correct falsehoods and sneers against the chief exemplar of our mission. Uncorrected, those lies will be retold and believed, by some, to the detriment of this Foundation and the Republic it seeks to serve.
There is an even more fundamental reason we are speaking out.
The American Republic is, as Federalist I put it, a test of whether men could be governed by "reflection and choice." That means by reason. The medium of reason is speech. Lies undermine the power and credibility of speech. Lies about the great and lies about justice undermine political piety and the labors of those who love justice.
These lies cannot, then, be tolerated. And yet, the power of law may not, and should not, be used against them. What is to be done? Good men must expose, refute, and denounce such falsehood and its purveyors.
This we have done, and this we will continue to do.
Liberty and Union, Now and Forever!
Dr. Richard Ferrier
President, Declaration Roundation
Cheers,
Richard F.
Declaration Foundation!
No humility without humiliation, I guess!
Cheers,
Richard F.
LOL. Vinnie. Even in 1860, the port of New York alone received more imports than every port in the south combined. Still does. The majority of tariffs were paid in the North. The tonnage through southern ports was mostly exports --- cotton, rice and sugar. The government collected no taxes on exports.
But that still does not answer my question. If we assume that all Americans have an equal need for goods produced overseas, how does an import tariff 'rape' the South and not harm the North? Did the south need more French lace or Dutch diamonds or Czech crystal than the North?
They were not honorable men.
I assume secession illegal, and in fact, I take it to be rebellion.
The bulk of the duly elected legislators were in rebellion, but the remainder not. Acting on behalf of the whole, the loyal legislators petitioned for what they had wanted for over 80 years, a legitimate partition of the state. Just as in Washington DC, the rebel legislators had voluntarily given up their votes by walking out. Just as in DC, in VA the remainder acted, legally, for the whole.
The request was contitutional and was duly accepted by Congress. It was actually mild in some ways ... consider what they could have done ... say, abolished slavery in the whole state, and otherwise acted on its behalf, with a view to supporting the Union. They did no such thing, of course, but merely set themselves apart from the whole, which they had long wished to do.
Somehow, I'm not shocked.
Cheers,
Richard F.
I could be wrong, but I think your answer is "No"
Where do you think the argument stands now?
Cheers,
Richard F.
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