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| 4/01/02
| Ben A. Conservative
Posted on 04/01/2002 5:42:41 AM PST by B. A. Conservative
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To: B. A. Conservative
War is coming. It is best to abandon our illusions and prepare for it. We're past the point of debate. We cannot and will not be able to vote or talk our way out of it. It is not a matter of if, it is merely a matter of when. 09/11 altered the timetable somewhat, and it did have the beneficial effect on some folks akin to that of a bucket of ice water in the face. But it didn't take long for the rats and the vermin to crawl back out from under their rocks, agendas and intent intact.
War is coming. Some may prefer to remain passive until the conflict reaches them. Others may prefer a more proactive approach, especially with respect to certain anti-American, anti-Constitutional apparatchiks, i.e., the politicians who believe that they rule with impunity.
War is coming. The Republic will be restored on the graves of traitors, patriots and innocents alike. Perhaps we'll learn something this time around.
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posted on
04/09/2002 3:44:58 PM PDT
by
Noumenon
To: Noumenon
War's already here.
It's just that day to day lowgrade kind of a thing. One things for sure though, it's going to get a lot uglier.
Regards,
L
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posted on
04/09/2002 3:57:28 PM PDT
by
Lurker
To: Cultural Jihad
Isn't the awkward stage quote from Claire Wolfe?
To: Wolfie
"
Most folks aren't looking for freedom, that would mean others are doing things they don't like. They just want a tyranny to their liking."
no replies to that statement? I think you hit it out of the park.
To: Noumenon
"War is coming. It is best to abandon our illusions and prepare for it. We're past the point of debate" Amen! Thanks for getting to the real issue: Where is the question on the list relating to "preparations"?
Of course, with your having peeled back the layers of feel-good crap to get at the core of the issue, the dramatic PC change in the FR landscape over the past couple of years will now dictate the deletion of this thread.
To: Wolfie
"Most folks aren't looking for freedom, that would mean others are doing things they don't like. They just want a tyranny to their liking." That's eminently quotable - may I quote you for attribution? That's more truth than some people - most people - want to hear. That's also why we're going to be fighting in open warfare before too much longer.
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posted on
04/09/2002 5:58:52 PM PDT
by
Noumenon
To: SuperLuminal
God forbid that anyone spoil the party, eh? Don't mind that elephant there in the living room....
67
posted on
04/09/2002 6:06:39 PM PDT
by
Noumenon
To: Lurker
It's just that day to day lowgrade kind of a thing. One things for sure though, it's going to get a lot uglier. Folks have no idea. Few of us have learned anything from history. Maybe this time...
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posted on
04/09/2002 6:08:47 PM PDT
by
Noumenon
To: VoodooEconomist
To be honest, I was devastated by the sentiments expressed by an overwhelming number of people post-9/11. I couldn't believe these were the same people who earlier were preaching against a coercive State and claimed to be promoters of Liberty. I felt (and feel) exactly the same way. I concluded, sadly, that the only difference between them and the liberals they railed against was the ends, not the means. It showed to me what a truly tiny portion of the population really cares or believes in the idea of the power of the individual and the right of the individual to be free.
We are not free, and we are becoming less free as time passes. Our freedom is an illusion, kept in place both externally, by the government/media, and internally by the small prosperity of the masses making them reluctant to rock the boat.
I suppose the main reason I stay here is that it is a good source for news that is hard to get otherwise. It's sort of like being able to watch the Titanic go down without having to actually be on board.
Tuor
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posted on
04/09/2002 7:06:27 PM PDT
by
Tuor
To: B. A. Conservative
Is FreeRepublic just a support group (form of group therapy) for burned-out or recovering conservatives much like the function served by AA for alcoholics?1. We admitted that we were powerless over politics, and that our country had become unmanageable.
2. We came to believe that a power greater than ourselves could restore us and the US to sanity.
3. We became willing to turn our lives, our nation, and our will over to the care of God as we understood him.
Sounds about right...many of us are taking inventory as we speak...
To: Noumenon
Quote away, attributed or not. It needs to be said more often, not that it will sink in with the people most in need of understanding it, but what the heck.
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posted on
04/10/2002 4:15:59 AM PDT
by
Wolfie
To: B. A. Conservative
America has become a nation of sheep, tended by wolves. As long as the wolves only take one sheep at a time, the herd remains content. As long as the herd has their TV and government cheese, it will not care if the wolves take a sheep every now and then. By the time the herd realizes the danger, it will already be at the slaughterhouse.
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posted on
04/10/2002 10:24:36 AM PDT
by
aomagrat
To: Ken H
To: Noumenon
War is coming. The Republic will be restored on the graves of traitors, patriots and innocents alike. Perhaps we'll learn something this time around. Perhaps, but does it have to be that way?
In previous centuries, probably so. But let's look at the two great victories for tyranny in the previous century: The New Deal, and the cultural revolution of the 1960's.
In neither case did the opponents of liberty have to resort to open warfare (at least on a large scale). Instead, they used political and social means to attack freedom. Yet they were still incredibly successful in radically altering the character and direction of America.
Instead of thinking about guerrila war and insurrection, maybe we should study those two movements and use elements from them in our counter-offensive.
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posted on
04/10/2002 1:19:52 PM PDT
by
timm22
To: Wolfie
"Most folks aren't looking for freedom, that would mean others are doing things they don't like. They just want a tyranny to their liking."
Bang!
Dead on target!
That is one of the most profound statements that I have ever read on this forum. It applies to many who call themselves conservative, as well.
To: B. A. Conservative
The US is beyond hope. A revolution of the likes not see before is the only remedy.
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posted on
04/12/2002 11:35:47 AM PDT
by
deadrock
To: Action-America
The majority of those who call themselves conservatives wouldn't recognize one if they tripped over him/her. Self responsibility in 100% of your life is too frightening for them to even consider.
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posted on
04/12/2002 11:43:23 AM PDT
by
B4Ranch
To: JohnGalt
... the Industrial Age is coming to an end ... in favor of a borderless Information Society This is the siren song to some form of global communism. I'm not putting it down, just being candid.
To: B. A. Conservative
Destructor will go out kickin'! My gear is packed, and my powder is dry.
To: apochromat
I disagree, but you are most likely a paleo-Conservative and thus we should disagree. Paleo-cons just have trouble determining when the Old Right ended, when it ended with the settling of the frontier. The new frontier is unlimited bandwidth and while it is not as romantic as the Wild West, it cannot be controlled by Washington DC or any other centralized 'government.'
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posted on
04/12/2002 12:17:45 PM PDT
by
JohnGalt
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