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BUSH'S REAL OPPOSITION: REPUBLICAN CONSERVATIVES
news/op/ed ^ | 3/28/2002 | Richard Reeves

Posted on 03/29/2002 3:08:59 PM PST by TLBSHOW

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To: Howlin
Hey Howlin, why dont you debate him instead of ranting like Dennis Miller? You cant handle the debate, I'll be watching you follow up that "loser talk" with some debate skills
361 posted on 03/29/2002 8:30:57 PM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: VRWC_minion
. . . automatic removal of a president if its ever found that he signed an unconstitutional bill.

LOL! No, VRWM Minion, it's even worse than that. It's not if he's "ever found" to have signed an unconstitutional bill, as in "found" by the Supreme Court, for example. No, it's if he ever signed a bill he or me or thee THOUGHT was unconstitutional. We don't even have to wait for the courts to rule. In fact, we don't even need the courts, just let Bubba or whoever THINK the bill is unconstitutional and we'll all go along with that. First we remove the bumper stickers, then we remove the prez. Or maybe automatic removal is too good for such a bum.

(Your delicious sarcasm is catching.)

362 posted on 03/29/2002 8:31:04 PM PST by fightinJAG
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To: rbmillerjr
and then I said why not try and find the dirty demorat.
363 posted on 03/29/2002 8:32:16 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Howlin
What vitriol.

People like me what? You mean people who actually live in the real world and realize we're not dictators

On the contrary. Your intellectual laziness and lack of moral fiber gives rise to dictatorship.

And that to move our agenda ONE STEP forward, we have to compromise, rather than sit in a cave and complain because everybody won't do like you think they should?

Last time. Then I think I need to go to bed, because I'm wasting my time. You can't compromise away your principles, because theoretically there is no gain that would be great enough to offset that compromise.

People like me who actually take what other people SAY and BELIEVE and THINK into consideration?

You mean people like you who are presumptuous and arrogant enough to believe that they know how I act and what I do?

People like me who don't think that anybody who disagrees with me is a traitor, or wants to shred the Constitution, or doesn't understand plain English, or isn't a real conservative?

Don't know where you got all that from, but I said nothing of the sort.

I can see how people like myself bug the crap out of you.

You don't bug the crap out of me. You amuse me. And you make me sad. You also make me happy I never had kids.

And I am SO GLAD I don't know anybody in my real life like you;

Sigh. Unfortunately, I know a lot of people like you.

you're so strident life around you must be miserable.

Don't know which is more amusing...your sanctimony or your presumptuousness.

God help anybody who isn't perfect or disagrees with you.

This one is too funny, considering the post it's at the end of.

364 posted on 03/29/2002 8:32:37 PM PST by ModernDayCato
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To: rbmillerjr
How about my question: why not critique George to wake him up? Notice no responses to that.

Do you see any lack of "critique" around here? Hell when accusing a president of treason. malfeasance and calling for impeachment is NOT enough "critiquing" then I don't know what to tell ya.

365 posted on 03/29/2002 8:33:42 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: OneidaM
that's the thing I love about conservatives...always eating their own.

I know you meant this as a slur, but so true. There are those of us out here who hold people to standards...you know, murder and stealing are wrong, breaking an oath to uphold the constitution is wrong, etc. Old fashioned fuddie-duddies.

I'm sure you think that mindless brand name loyalty for the GOP is the way, so go in peace.

As for eating our own, well, we aren't. Bush isn't a conservative. If he were a conservative, and espoused and supported conservative constitutional ideals, such as eliminating the Dept of Education, reducing federal spending, controlling borders and illegal immigration, really reducing taxes, etc. then I would support him.

Until then, Bon appetit.

366 posted on 03/29/2002 8:33:52 PM PST by Jesse
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To: TLBSHOW
come agin ?
367 posted on 03/29/2002 8:34:43 PM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: Howlin
That's not what I asked. I'm trying to figure out where we differ in defending the Constitution. Didn't think it was that difficult of a question.
368 posted on 03/29/2002 8:35:01 PM PST by ModernDayCato
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To: Howlin
Notice that they have now moved on to THIS ridiculous argument. "What would it take for you to hate him?"

After all the crappola we've been dealing with, over the last two weeks, this is a mild diversion. But you are right Howlin. 'I don't like Bush, I hate Bush, why can't you?' LMAO!

369 posted on 03/29/2002 8:35:45 PM PST by Reagan Man
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To: rbmillerjr
What the HELL are you talking about??????????? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...I see I have my work cut out for me...you men are soooooooooooo hard headed when it comes to FIGURING out the STRATEGERY HERE...isn't that a man's skill??? And do you NOT think that Karl Rove et al, do not have people here lurking to see the comments of "critique" as you call them?????????
370 posted on 03/29/2002 8:35:55 PM PST by Neets
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To: Texasforever
I dont see critique coming from more than about 30% of a guestimate of the Freepers.
371 posted on 03/29/2002 8:36:31 PM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: Reagan Man
If you're here to beat the political crap out of me, don't you think I should understand your argument, or isn't that important?

So let's make it a non-hypothetical question: How far will you let Bush torture the Constitution before you say Uncle?

372 posted on 03/29/2002 8:36:41 PM PST by ModernDayCato
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To: Jesse
breaking an oath to uphold the constitution is wrong

You wouldn't look like such a damn fool if you put some thought into what you are saying.

373 posted on 03/29/2002 8:36:48 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Jesse
Not a slur...the truth...I can never ever figure out why the hell we can't show a united front on any single freakin issue...it's like NotaLott and the rest go out of their way to show how divided we are....
374 posted on 03/29/2002 8:37:55 PM PST by Neets
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To: rbmillerjr
and then I hit the bulls-eye and Yep a rat appeared.

targetpractice

and you and a few others here on this thread seem just like du rats just like ole target here. Thanks for playing!

375 posted on 03/29/2002 8:37:56 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: cva66snipe
I appreciate your passion for valuing life.

If a bill is bad, on whatever ground, no doubt it should not be passed, or even passed out of committee, as you said. But if it is, how much responsibility and therefore power do we want presidents to have to make constitutional judgments?

Did you see my question about how conservatives would react if a president like Bubba vetoed a law outlawing partial birth abortion on the basis he thought it was unconstitutional?

I can see you care about the travesty of abortion, as do I. What are your thoughts on this example? Would we not feel that we deserved our day in court? That it was not for Bubba to take away our chance to argue that the law was constitutional by refusing to sign it simply because he thought it was unconstitutional?

Doesn't it seem the opposite is being argued re CFR?

376 posted on 03/29/2002 8:38:05 PM PST by fightinJAG
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To: Howlin
Hey Howlin ... I see they are at it again huh???

Do they EVER give up

377 posted on 03/29/2002 8:38:28 PM PST by Mo1
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To: ModernDayCato
Nice macro; I've seen it ALL before. You guys aren't the least bit original. Thank goodness you're in the minority.
378 posted on 03/29/2002 8:39:00 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Mo1
Give up morally pontificating to us? NEVER. What else do they have to do; they certainly don't have JOBS in any poltical or government field; they never get their candidates elected.
379 posted on 03/29/2002 8:39:45 PM PST by Howlin
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To: OneidaM
i think with Bush up 80%in approval rating, he is being too cautious and not using his political capital to move a more conservative agenda.

smack smack

380 posted on 03/29/2002 8:40:15 PM PST by rbmillerjr
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