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One Less Republican in Camp
Sierra Times ^ | 3-29-02 | Colonel Dan

Posted on 03/29/2002 5:48:42 AM PST by oursacredhonor

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To: tpaine
We must find a way to 'devolve' their hold on this power.

Absolutely. And that is your job. You develop a detailed plan, with charts and graphs and ensure that it's a fool-proof way of doing this and don't post until you're finished.

201 posted on 03/29/2002 8:15:01 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: Sabertooth
You live in a desert of political acumen. You have neither forest nor trees.

OOOH, how droll. Oh well that should be expected from someone who is vain enough to post a "picture" signature on every one of his posts.

202 posted on 03/29/2002 8:15:19 AM PST by Dane
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To: hchutch
Don't you remember the Mediscare campaign? I didn't think people would buy it. I was wrong, and I won't risk a similar attack ad campaign.

Medicare and Social Security are a LOT different than CFR

Poll after Poll show CFR is zilch as a concern

Public is cynical enough to know the $$$$ will find the politicians no matter what

Like I said with the Middle East going up and who knows what else CFR is not a big issue and the dems trying to make it one won't work
203 posted on 03/29/2002 8:15:47 AM PST by uncbob
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To: marajade
Right. Then you still have an "issue." There's always another issue down the road, too. Lucky them.
204 posted on 03/29/2002 8:15:50 AM PST by Howlin
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To: ActionNewsBill
Is that the only qualifications the Pubbies are looking for....an "electable candidate"?

Heck, no. I like to be out of power, don't you? If you don't want to win so you can enact your ideas, why are you here?

205 posted on 03/29/2002 8:17:04 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Sabertooth; Poohbah
It's pretty easy to "win" a debate when you dismiss all opposition as lying sacks of $%&^, isn't it?
206 posted on 03/29/2002 8:17:07 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: NittanyLion
I must admit, it's a bit surprising to see a Constitutionalist described as a "kook".

Ahem. His screen name is the pretentious "oursacredhonor" and refers to himself as "The Colonel". Yup. That's enough for me.

207 posted on 03/29/2002 8:17:12 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: uncbob
Free Republic is NOT THE ONLY venue for free speech

And even FR isn't that free... Trashing and telling outright lies about Pres Bush is allowed at FR but even responding negatively about Alan Keyes isn't.

208 posted on 03/29/2002 8:18:04 AM PST by marajade
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To: Howlin
If you don't want to win so you can enact your ideas, why are you here?

It would appear that even when we do win, our ideas cannot be enacted. This is to ensure the next victory. What's the purpose again, aside from retaining power?

209 posted on 03/29/2002 8:18:53 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Dane
Actually (Robert Byrd) said "white n****r" on TV. But it is still out there.

Still out there: doing nothing... And Byrd is a former Klansman!

But if Charlton Heston, who marched with Martin Luther King on Washington in 1963, used the term "white n****r" on TV, we'd have never heard the end of it.

The KKK issue with Byrd is going nowhere, because he's a Democrat. Not saying it's right, but it's reality.




210 posted on 03/29/2002 8:18:57 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
You have repeatedly mischaracterized 245(i), even after you were corrected numerous times.

Pointing out that you are a liar may technically be an ad hominem attack, but it is relevant to the issue at hand.

And refusal to debate someone who doesn't follow the rules of debate is kinda like negotiating peace in the Middle East with the guys sending suicide bombers in pizza parlors, hotels, and supermarkets--it's pretty stupid.

211 posted on 03/29/2002 8:19:28 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: NittanyLion
Well, there is the issue that Sabertooth IS a lying sack of Clinton...
212 posted on 03/29/2002 8:20:25 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: oursacredhonor
Colonel, I am independent too, having ditched the Dem Party. But, just as you are leaving the GOP, others are now joining, as explained here.
213 posted on 03/29/2002 8:21:54 AM PST by summer
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To: Poohbah
Well, there is the issue that Sabertooth IS a lying sack of Clinton...

Man, this is a tough crowd. Even on Good Friday, we go for the jugular here (me included). ;-)

214 posted on 03/29/2002 8:22:44 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: Grampa Dave
It is not the president's job nor place to determine if a law is constitutional or not.

George Washington only vetoed bills on the grounds that they weren't Constitutional. Of course it's the President's duty.

215 posted on 03/29/2002 8:22:48 AM PST by Virginia-American
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To: uncbob
Poll after Poll show CFR is zilch as a concern

After a full-court press by the "Manufacturers of Consent," showing Enron employees reduced to eating dogfood in cardboard boxes, holding signs saying "Will manage commodity deals for food," and piously wailing about how we need CFR "For the CHILL-ILL-RRUUNN," are you STILL willing to bet on that outcome?

IF you are, you're a bigger fool than I believed possible.

216 posted on 03/29/2002 8:23:21 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: NittanyLion
FReeping is a full-contact sport :o)
217 posted on 03/29/2002 8:24:25 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: oursacredhonor
Please explain to me why the current active military is having an orgasmic love affair with President Bush.

Politics is no longer a battle between conseratives versus liberals per se but conservitaves versus the press.

218 posted on 03/29/2002 8:25:06 AM PST by tubebender
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To: Virginia-American
Washington was much more respected, even by those who disagreed with him, than President Bush is today.

And frankly, as much as I respect him, I don't think he could beat Bill Clinton in a campaign today. There are some objective conditions here, and we need to figure out a way to turn things around within those conditions. If we ignore them, we are toast.

219 posted on 03/29/2002 8:30:55 AM PST by hchutch
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To: Poohbah
You have repeatedly mischaracterized 245(i), even after you were corrected numerous times.

Pointing out that you are a liar may technically be an ad hominem attack, but it is relevant to the issue at hand.

Your second sentence would be relevant, if your first was not false.

I have not mischaracterized Section 245(i) at all, as you full well know. According to the INS...

INS Memo: Sec. 245(i) filings

Section 245 of the Act allows an alien to apply for adjustment of status to that of a lawful permanent resident (LPR) while in the United States if certain conditions are met. The alien must have been inspected and admitted or paroled, be eligible for an immigrant visa and admissible for permanent residence, and, with some exceptions, have maintained lawful nonimmigrant status. The alien must also not have engaged in unauthorized employment.
Section 245(i) of the Act allows an alien to apply to adjust status under section 245 notwithstanding the fact that he or she entered without inspection, overstayed, or worked without authorization.
LINK.

President Bush's 245(i) extension was specifically about illegals. .


How Do I Benefit From Section 245(i)?
(from INS website)

Our immigration laws allow qualified individuals to enter the United States as lawful permanent residents ("green card" holders) after they obtain immigrant visas from a consulate or embassy outside the United States or, for many immigrants already lawfully in the United States, through a process called "adjustment of status." If you entered the United States unlawfully, if you entered with permission but did not stay in lawful status, or if you worked without permission, you normally would have to leave the United States in order to apply for an immigrant visa. Special rules under section 245(i) may allow you to apply to adjust status without leaving the United States.

You might need section 245(i) if you:

  • Entered the U.S. without being inspected by an INS official.
  • Stayed in the U.S. longer than allowed by INS.
  • Entered the U.S. as a worker on an aircraft or ship (crewman).
  • Entered the U.S. as a "Transit Without Visa."
  • Failed to continuously maintain a lawful status since your entry into the US.
  • Worked in the U.S. without INS permission.
  • Entered as an "S" nonimmigrant (relates to witnesses about criminal or terrorism matters).
  • Are seeking a work-related visa and are out of status at the time of filing the application to adjust status (Form I-485).
  • Worked in the U.S. while being an "unauthorized alien."


LINK

This has been posted numerous times to Amnesty Deniers, but they still persist.
Letting Illegals stay = Amnesty for those Illegals.

What is the source of your difficulty with understanding this?




220 posted on 03/29/2002 8:32:27 AM PST by Sabertooth
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