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President Signs CFR Act, Statement by the President 3/27/2002
whitehouse ^ | 3/27/2002 | President George W. Bush

Posted on 03/27/2002 6:23:59 PM PST by TLBSHOW

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To: poet
If the supremes uphold this, then a prior deal has been struck and it will still be a restriction of free speech prior to a time certain of an election.

If they do then all Bush is "guilty" of is signing a bill that an overwhelming house majority supported. We want our politicians to represent us and Bush would be doing just that.

61 posted on 03/27/2002 7:27:04 PM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: deport
If you insist on calling me Rebeckie, I actually would just prefer Beckie, since it is my real name.
62 posted on 03/27/2002 7:27:59 PM PST by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Twodees
There are those in the house that should be tossed out of office for signing on to this bill, but lets look at it a different way. There were 198 democrats that voted for it, vs 41 Republicans. There was 176 Republicans that voted against it and 12 Democrats that voted against it.

That is just the house vote last month.

Look at it this way. If my numbers are correct, which I believe they are

Voted to take away your Free Speech in a time of War


Democrats=198


Republicans=41

Voted to Keep your Free Speech in a time of War


Republicans=176


Democrats=12

The rats must be put out of power in 2002, they are traitors to Free Speech In America

63 posted on 03/27/2002 7:28:44 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: poet
Do you really think the incumbents won't get around it.

I think that its quite possible that the Rats can lose some support and this would affect some of the more marginal races where the senate will be fought. The Rats are already in danger of losing unions over Alaska. Add to that the ban on free speech and they will take some hits in my opinion.

The GOP on the other hand are the lead group for gettting the AD ban turned down and won't likely suffer as much as the RATs.

I think Bush and is advisors saw this as part of the dynamics for the after affects of his signature.

64 posted on 03/27/2002 7:31:47 PM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
No, it means that the court failed in its duty to uphold the 9th, 10th, and, more likely than not, the 1st amendments (not to mention Article I, Section 8) via judicial review. Do you really think I'm stupid enough to swallow your bull?

Then you want a government that decides issues on how you personally perceive them to be. Isn't that called totalatarian ? If that is what makes you happy count me out.

65 posted on 03/27/2002 7:35:53 PM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Rebeckie.... Heck it's 2 1/2 years until the elections in 04 so who knows what candidate will come along and strike your fancy. Maybe you can do some investigative reporting for the 04 primaries.
66 posted on 03/27/2002 7:37:55 PM PST by deport
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To: Mulder
During the campaign, he promised to veto this bill.

Wrong. This bill wasn't the same bill

He also took an oath to uphold the Constitution

Which he has upheld.

67 posted on 03/27/2002 7:38:05 PM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: Mulder
Like I said before...kinda like the ol' man!
68 posted on 03/27/2002 7:39:46 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: VRWC_minion
"You are getting closer to realizing that a politician can never be too far from where the majority of the people are. Your disapointment with any politician is merely a symptom of your disapointment with the majority. (Even St. Paul knew this when persuading people to believe in Jesus. He always started where the people were and moved them from there. )"

I appreciated your thoughtful post. The apostle Paul was indeed a great communicator and a great example in the art of persuation. Romans 17: 16-34, is a good example, same with 1 Corinthians 1.

69 posted on 03/27/2002 7:41:32 PM PST by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: VRWC_minion
Then you want a government that decides issues on how you personally perceive them to be. Isn't that called totalatarian ? If that is what makes you happy count me out.

No, not at all. I'm just not willing to go along with egregious constitutional violations like this bill. You, on the other hand, have no problem if the Supreme Kourt upholds this speech totalitarianism. You chutzpah is breathtaking!

70 posted on 03/27/2002 7:42:44 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: VRWC_minion
Wrong. This bill wasn't the same bill

While it is not the same bill verbatim, it still limits free speech, just like the McCain bill did.

I did not vote for someone to have them play verbal games and parse words. 12 years of that was enough.

The bottom line is that Bush screwed us. The anti-free speech parts of this bill resemble stuff you would see in a dictatorship, not a free country.

71 posted on 03/27/2002 7:44:15 PM PST by Mulder
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To: VRWC_minion; mulder
Wrong. This bill wasn't the same bill

Sorta like the meaning of "is," eh?

72 posted on 03/27/2002 7:45:06 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: deport
Honestly, Howard Phillips and Alan Keyes have always had a very special place in my heart. My brief political fling with George W. was out of pure pragmatism, but I believe now that it is better to be the idealist. So I will vote and support the underdog who actually represents my beliefs, instead of merely vocally giving them my support.

You know, Alan Keyes was the most championed speaker at C-PAC this year, everyone seemed to just love him--so I know that I am not far off in my support for him.

73 posted on 03/27/2002 7:45:34 PM PST by FreedominJesusChrist
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Supreme Kourt

How original.

74 posted on 03/27/2002 7:46:50 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: TLBSHOW
Man, you guys turn fast. Granted this is a let down, but comments such as not voting for Bush, even if he is up agianst Hildabeast. That's outrageous! Anyway there may be more than meets the eye, (sometimes people in those positions have a little extra info) Ex. Maybe he has a good reason reason to believe that the Supreme Court will take care of the troubling sections of this bill. If I am not mistaken, the rest of this bill would actually be more benificial to the Republicans. I agree that you should not sacrifice standards for a political move, but if the Supreme Court clears up the constitutionally questionable parts, then Bush has just made quite a nice move. Nevertheless, even if he screwed up on this one, let him know, but don't turn your back on the guy who has helped pull us from the horrors of Billary.
75 posted on 03/27/2002 7:48:53 PM PST by Andrewksu
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To: VRWC_minion
The dems aren't the only RATS in Washington.
76 posted on 03/27/2002 7:49:43 PM PST by poet
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To: Mulder
The anti-free speech parts of this bill resemble stuff you would see in a dictatorship, not a free country.

And when those parts are certainly shot down your beef is ______________?

77 posted on 03/27/2002 7:50:25 PM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion
How can you say they are representing us when they violate the constitution? You are trying to defend the indefensible just like the clinton lemmings.
78 posted on 03/27/2002 7:51:28 PM PST by poet
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To: Andrewksu
Don't worry, many here are false posters, as in demorat plants with fancy names that do nothing more than stand out as Rat Alert, Rat Alert beware a rat is in the house. LOL
79 posted on 03/27/2002 7:54:03 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
As I said, it's over two years to the next Presidential election.... no telling where you'll be by then. Just look at where you've been in the last year or so. Idealism is nice but sometimes it's hard to breathe without a nose
80 posted on 03/27/2002 7:54:17 PM PST by deport
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