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Religion in the Science Class? Why Creationism/Intelligent Design Don't Belong (So sayeth the ADL)
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Posted on 03/27/2002 3:19:40 PM PST by RCW2001

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1 posted on 03/27/2002 3:19:40 PM PST by RCW2001
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The ADL position has absolutely nothing to do with science. It is based on the thesis that words written by Jews, whether modern or ancient, belong only to Jews, and not others.

Ergo, non-Jews who use the Biblical Creation account are, in the eyes of the ADL leadership, violating Jewish rights to their own heritage, that is, the Bible.

In short, the ADL position is always one of bigotry and is never designed to advance the progress of society as a whole. They're about 2000 years too late to make such a claim, but they do.

2 posted on 03/27/2002 3:33:19 PM PST by muawiyah
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The U.S. Constitution guarantees the rights of Americans to believe the religious theories of creation (as well as other theories) but it does not permit them to be taught in public school science classes.

Where does the Constitution say anything about what may or may not be taught in public school science classes?

3 posted on 03/27/2002 3:38:11 PM PST by Logophile
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Creationism, creation science, intelligent design and other theories that set out to challenge widely held scientific explanations about the origin of the universe have no place in the public school curriculum.

Interesting choice of words..

-The Hajman-
4 posted on 03/27/2002 3:45:42 PM PST by Hajman
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5 posted on 03/27/2002 3:47:35 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
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6 posted on 03/27/2002 3:50:00 PM PST by longshadow
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7 posted on 03/27/2002 3:52:22 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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Lurking ... but never shirking.
8 posted on 03/27/2002 3:52:53 PM PST by Gumlegs
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To: Logophile
Where does the Constitution say anything about what
may or may not be taught in public school science classes?

Teaching religion in government schools
is the establishment of that religion by
the government, isn't it?

9 posted on 03/27/2002 4:00:44 PM PST by gcruse
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To: RCW2001
"The U.S. Constitution guarantees the rights of Americans to believe the religious theories of creation (as well as other theories) but it does not permit them to be taught in public school science classes."

See that bulls**t in bold? Prove it. [HINT: you can't if you know the first thing about the Constitution.]

10 posted on 03/27/2002 4:03:53 PM PST by RightOnline
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"Any effort to introduce a theological doctrine into the public school curricula would inevitably offend some teachers and students."

More utter horses**t. Show me ONE "moral teaching" that won't "offend" someone. I don't care; not a whit. I couldn't care less any longer who gets "offended" by Judeo-Christian values. I just don't give a flying fiddler's damn, because they sure as all HELL don't care about offending me and those like me. Let's have a "war of the offended", and they'll bloody-well lose.

Oh, how I despise such drooling pantywaists.

11 posted on 03/27/2002 4:07:12 PM PST by RightOnline
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I like your adittude!

This is an attempt to silence free speech by the facist left. In their sick, twisted, destructive view of the world, schools can never entertain the idea that the universe was created by God no matter how much scientific evidence there is for it. Their secular dogma must triumph by force of law over the will of the parents and scientific fact!

Down with the facists! Let freedom ring!

12 posted on 03/27/2002 4:17:22 PM PST by Ahban
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To: gcruse
Teaching religion in government schools is the establishment of that religion by the government, isn't it?

The short answer is no.

You seem to have missed the point of my earlier post. Education is a state and local issue. Nothing in the United States Constitution explicitly gives the federal government any authority over what is taught in public schools.

13 posted on 03/27/2002 4:20:13 PM PST by Logophile
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To: Logophile
Now, darn it all..............there ya go, confusing the issue with facts. Don't you know that these threads do not attract people who care about facts??? Sheesh...........try to keep up here, will ya???
14 posted on 03/27/2002 4:24:41 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: Logophile
 Nothing in the United States Constitution explicitly gives the federal
government any authority over what is taught in public schools.

Or over the size of my toilet tank, either.  So what's your point?

15 posted on 03/27/2002 4:26:52 PM PST by gcruse
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To: RightOnline
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16 posted on 03/27/2002 4:27:07 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: Logophile
You seem to have missed the point of my earlier post. Education is a state and local issue. Nothing in the United States Constitution explicitly gives the federal government any authority over what is taught in public schools.

Didn't the 14th Amendment cause the Bill of Rights to be enforceable against the states? I forget.

At any rate, how many public schools don't get federal money thru the Dept. of Education?

17 posted on 03/27/2002 4:29:38 PM PST by jennyp
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To: gcruse
"Or over the size of my toilet tank, either. So what's your point?"

Come come, gcruse, my friend..............we may disagree on this topic, but you're FAR too smart to attempt to justify a ridiculously un-Constitutional stance by citing another ridiculous government intrusion / usurpation of power. In one case, voters are stupid enough to elect "legislators" with the IQ's of tomatoes with far too much time on their hands. The other issue? Not in the same league..........

18 posted on 03/27/2002 4:33:38 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: Logophile
Where does the Constitution say anything about what may or may not be taught in public school science classes?

In that little "general welfare" clause, in the 6 or 7 percent of the school's funding received from federal sources, head-start, school lunch programs, etc.

We are seeing why the strict interpretation of the constitution is so important. Living off the teet of the Fed is easy, but compromising.

19 posted on 03/27/2002 4:37:25 PM PST by sayfer bullets
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To: RightOnline
Concurring bump...
20 posted on 03/27/2002 4:39:09 PM PST by RCW2001
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