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Bush-Rice 2004? | The rise and rise of Condi
The Sunday Times of London ^ | March 24, 2002 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 03/25/2002 1:05:22 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative

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To: willgetsome
Inappropriate.

You're giving Rice a pass on abortion. That means you're okay with it, to that degree. If the practice were repugnant, soul-withering, appallingly unacceptable, you'd never trust the leadership of someone who can affect that practice and who thought otherwise.

Put it on another plane, and try to think rationally about it. Suppose Rice were "okay" with involuntarily castrating men she finds disagreeable. Suppose it were a man, and he were "okay" with rape. Would you criticize people who opposed such candidates as "single-issue like Barbara Boxer"?

And, for the record, I don't assume I know Rice's position on abortion. I've read that she's said she was pro-life, and I've read that she's said she was reluctantly pro-choice. Before I make an individual judgment on her, I'll want to hear it from her, in some detail.

And if the notion of butchering babies for being inconvenient doesn't cause her moral repugnance needle to quiver, she's no one I could support as President-in-waiting.

Dan

81 posted on 03/26/2002 6:57:05 AM PST by BibChr
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To: ALL
Doesn't matter who Bush runs with in 2004 he won't win.

I predict the grass roots conservatives will leave him in droves and nominate a REAL conservative candidate.

BUSH IS TOAST IN 2004!

82 posted on 03/26/2002 6:59:53 AM PST by RickyJ
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To: BibChr
There you go again.

Have you ever wondered why some people are annoyed by your comments?

Does it have to do with the fact that you attribute the butchering of babies with anyone who is not as militant in their beliefs as you?

Anyhow, I'm morally against abortions. I think we should restrict abortions to only certain circumstances. Does my willingness to allow some exceptions (such as rape or incest) make me an enemy in your view?

83 posted on 03/26/2002 7:02:00 AM PST by willgetsome
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To: RickyJ
And if the alternative is Hillary Clinton?
84 posted on 03/26/2002 7:03:24 AM PST by willgetsome
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To: RickyJ
Yeah, nominate Pat Buchanan-- maybe he'll win 1/2 of one percent of the vote-- an increase over his 2000 total.
85 posted on 03/26/2002 7:13:21 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative
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To: rdb3
Nice bait and switch, eskimo. You never fully answered his question, then forced the issue back to him.

I believe the "bait and switch", as you say, happened when I refrenced background and someone switched to present-day policies.

86 posted on 03/26/2002 7:49:30 AM PST by eskimo
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To: willgetsome
Not per se; it makes you a partial ally. Less is better than no less. I could work with you on areas of agreement. But if you haven't yet figured out that one doesn't butcher kids for being inconvenient or imperfect, or that the government has a legitimate role in protecting such children, I'd not work for you for President.

But I really think you missed the point of the post. Read it again slower, or to your dog, or something.

Dan

87 posted on 03/26/2002 7:56:34 AM PST by BibChr
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To: TigerTale
Sorry--a negative can't be proven. You made the implication. The burden of proof is yours.

Wrong! You changed the subject to present-day policies.

Let's make it easier for you. What are some of the policies, of any kind, that have been advocated?

88 posted on 03/26/2002 8:01:24 AM PST by eskimo
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To: eskimo
You keep mentioning her background. What specifically about her background makes her Marxist in your view?

You totally danced around that.

89 posted on 03/26/2002 8:05:57 AM PST by rdb3
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To: RickyJ
BUSH IS TOAST IN 2004!

That's exactly what you want. Don't complain if he loses.

90 posted on 03/26/2002 8:11:15 AM PST by rdb3
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To: rdb3
Your mind is obviously already toast. Bush-Rice can't lose. PC & she's got a nice butt -- unlike Crusty!
91 posted on 03/26/2002 8:12:42 AM PST by Bodie
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To: Bodie
Excuse me, Bodie, but where did I say that a Bush-Rice ticket won't win?

You must have me mixed up with someone else.

92 posted on 03/26/2002 8:20:43 AM PST by rdb3
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To: willgetsome
"My only advice to you is: 1) calm down and 2) convert people to your point of view by polite, dedicated arguments. You can't win over people when you try to use a flamethrower on them."

Er, you've called folks like us "myopic," "stupid" and "annoying" on this thread. You might want to reread your own advice.

I don't understand how pro-life people can give pro-aborts a pass, and then turn around and berate other pro-lifers for actually having a "line in the sand" on baby killing.

If Condi is nominated it will be serious third party time, and given threads like this, I won't miss the compromise-till-you-drop-Republican-party one bit.

93 posted on 03/26/2002 8:29:06 AM PST by Artist
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To: rdb3
You totally danced around that.

Not at all. I did not change the subject, someone else did.

Perhaps you can give us an example of a clear policy that has been advocated.

94 posted on 03/26/2002 8:48:20 AM PST by eskimo
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To: GraniteStateConservative
I liked Conidi before liking conde was cool !!!!!!!
95 posted on 03/26/2002 8:49:52 AM PST by anncoulteriscool
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To: GraniteStateConservative
I liked Condi before liking conde was cool !!!!!!!
96 posted on 03/26/2002 8:50:10 AM PST by anncoulteriscool
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To: GraniteStateConservative
I liked Conde before liking conde was cool !!!!!!!
97 posted on 03/26/2002 8:50:22 AM PST by anncoulteriscool
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To: eskimo
Last time, dude.

I've made no comment one way or the other concerning her "policies." She's the NSA, for crying out loud. She follows the President's lead and, as the title explicitly says, advises the President.

Now, you're still dancing. Not only are you invalidating whatever point(s) is it you are attempting to make, but you are also, by your refusal to answer a straight question, making me wonder about your true motives.

Clear it up!

What makes Condi Rice a Marxist?

Plain question. Answer it!

YOU made the claim, no one else. Therefore, back it up! You've totally failed to do so.

Your tactics and arguing style may work on Democrats, but it definitely doesn't work on me.

98 posted on 03/26/2002 8:54:39 AM PST by rdb3
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To: rdb3
Clear it up!

Gladly. It was suggested that the discussion begin with policies advocated, so let's start there and work back.

I am unaware of any clear policies advocated and am looking to those who are to begin the discussion. If you do not have the patience or the information required for participating in the process, just say so.

99 posted on 03/26/2002 9:30:56 AM PST by eskimo
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