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Losing Your Freedom
Kingston News | 3/10 | Kingston Newspaper

Posted on 03/18/2002 12:27:48 PM PST by OPS4

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To: vanilla
That's right, go run off little nino.
61 posted on 03/19/2002 10:56:01 AM PST by Loopy
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To: gorush
for = force
62 posted on 03/19/2002 10:56:42 AM PST by gorush
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To: vanilla
As far as I'm concerned, this discussion is at an end.

When you can no longer defend your argument, what do you do?
Leave.

63 posted on 03/19/2002 10:58:11 AM PST by Just another Joe
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To: vanilla
Actually, now that I think about it, your pissant reply really bugs me. I refute each one of your pathetic little points and you don't have the brains or the balls to reply.

I'll say this nino, I've got to work too. But in the future, when I come on FR, I'm going to seek your pathetic little ignorant self out each time and expose your lack of brains and wisdom for all to see. If you can't defend yourself, don't bother coming here.

64 posted on 03/19/2002 10:59:14 AM PST by Loopy
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To: FreeTally; Loopy; Desert Lizard
Well said.

Check some o' 'Nilla's other posts; have come to a few conclusions.

1) My 15 month old daughter has a better grasp of logic.

2) He/ She/ It has a habit of engaging the right people in the wrong arguements.

'Nilla, if you are listening, keep it up. This is fun. But you may want to bone up on your Sung T'zu, and take a couple of psychology classes while you are at it. You walked into every trap set.

God Bless

65 posted on 03/19/2002 11:00:15 AM PST by WALLACE212
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To: vanilla
So you're saying that you don't give a damn if your public expression of your religion intimidates someone else or steps on someone else's beliefs. You're going to worship publically and everyone else be damned. Do I understand you correctly?

YES!!! THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE SAYING.

You've got some major hang-ups with religion, buddy. That to here a slightest mention irritates you so bad is quite telling. And that its ONLY the public expression of religion is quite telling as well.

And this notion that no one can utter words that might "step on someone's toes"; you are 16, right?

66 posted on 03/19/2002 11:02:30 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: vanilla
So now it is kooky to stand up for the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and freedom? I feel sorry for you.

When you start doing so, you can join us.

There is no Constitutional 'separation of church and state' PERIOD

There is nothing that prohibits a citizen from praying, chanting, genuflecting, or munching crackers while sipping wine in public. Or that prohibits a whole bunch of people from doing the same thing at the same time.

Proper decorum, however, might dictate that football games are not the place for communion services, but praying for victory, for health, for the promotion of competiton and sportsmanship is entirely proper.

How hard is it for you to tolerate something that over 50% of the crowd wants to do, lasts about a minute, and causes harm to no one?

67 posted on 03/19/2002 11:04:47 AM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: WALLACE212
I've seen other posts by "vanilla" too. They are all quite kooky and sound like the pissed off rantings of a 16 year old who has been grounded by his/her parents.
68 posted on 03/19/2002 11:05:52 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: vanilla
" I'm an American who is extremely concerned with people who want to limit MY freedom!!!!"

and by your statement you are trying to limit those who differ from your point of view, but again I say you are a narrow minded moron who can't articulate anything but the your agenda.

I am not advocating a theoracy, or a fascist state rather a country that individuals have the choice not the absence of choice.

" I will fight against that to my dying day. AND THAT'S WHO THE HELL I AM!! Got it?"

Well sparky, I will bet you my dd214 gives me the right to call you on your lack of vision, and your anti-freedom AGENDA, and I would recommend that you stick your hands in a bucket of water, remove them and see how big a hole you leave in the water.

69 posted on 03/19/2002 11:06:33 AM PST by SERE_DOC
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To: FreeTally
You got that one right.

"Buuuuuuttt Mmmmmooommmmmm...." snifle, snifle

70 posted on 03/19/2002 11:08:07 AM PST by WALLACE212
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To: I'm ALL Right!
AIN'T THAT THU TRUTH!!!
71 posted on 03/19/2002 11:12:21 AM PST by Quix
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To: Quix
Keep reading, Quix old buddy. This one will tick you off right up to the point where you realize the anti-God whiner of the day walked into a minefield.
72 posted on 03/19/2002 11:16:19 AM PST by WALLACE212
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To: vanilla
"You are NOT ENTITLED to put it where people who practice other religions will see it and feel put upon and intimidated."

Yes, I am. Please illustrate for me the passage in the Constitution that indicates otherwise.

Remember, this is a LOCAL school district deciding what is right for THEM, as individuals apart from the Federal govt.

The first amendment is a limitation on the Federal govt. And even if it wasn't, I will still be a constant witness for my religion whether you or anyone else likes it or not. I'm all done with "tolerance". I've seen the result.

73 posted on 03/19/2002 11:23:02 AM PST by wcbtinman
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To: Desert Lizard
And I am confused on something here. It is not offensive to say God @#$%, but it is offensive to say Praise God. WHY IS IT???? THAT PEOPLE OF VIRTUALLY ALL CULTURES REMOTELY IN TOUCH WITH THE MODERN WORLD,

It's quite common to say "**s*s ****st" or "**d Damn" or some such . . .

But one never hears even in those cultures "Buddah Damn" or "Oh Buddah!!!" Or "Allah Damn" etc. etc. etc.

Evidently there's no big thrill in maligning, using in vain the counterfeit. An interesting "cultural" phenomenon.

74 posted on 03/19/2002 11:24:52 AM PST by Quix
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To: vanilla
"I have the right to freedom too..."

Then properly exercise it and shut the hell up.

75 posted on 03/19/2002 11:27:45 AM PST by wcbtinman
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To: Eagle Eye
How hard is it for you to tolerate something that over 50% of the crowd wants to do, lasts about a minute, and causes harm to no one?

Can you imagine the hard time they are going to have with "Every knee shall bow; every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord of Lords, King of Kings."

[paraphrase from memory]

76 posted on 03/19/2002 11:28:47 AM PST by Quix
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To: vanilla
"As far as I'm concerned, this discussion is at an end. I have to go to work now..."

Don't forget your McNametag.

77 posted on 03/19/2002 11:30:51 AM PST by gorush
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To: vanilla
Homosexuality is not a life-style choice. It is what someone IS.

So you advocate that homosexuality is a genetic predisposition? Okay, for the sake of argument I'll accept that. Now answer me this: If a test were made available for expectant mothers to discover if their fetus were predisposed to homosexuality, should that mother be allowed to abort the fetus? If she does abort a homosexual fetus, is this a "hate crime?" If she is prevented from aborting the fetus, has her "right to choose" been infringed upon?

I'll be happy to wait for your answer.

78 posted on 03/19/2002 11:30:56 AM PST by Axeslinger
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To: Quix
The look on 'Nilla's face is going to be priceless. Too bad I will be too busy dancing for joy to notice.
79 posted on 03/19/2002 11:37:11 AM PST by WALLACE212
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To: Quix
I think that at that point that the Constitution has been superceeded!
80 posted on 03/19/2002 11:38:42 AM PST by Eagle Eye
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