Posted on 03/18/2002 12:27:48 PM PST by OPS4
Talk about limiting freedoms.
BAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAW!!!
You are one kooky character. Let me ask, 'nilla, what other public expressions should be forbidden because they violate your rights?
ONCE MORE, FIND YOUR "WALL OF SEPARATION" CLAUSE IN THE CONSTITUTION. Oh, wait, thats right. THERE ISN'T ONE.
No public exercise of religion. Thank you, thank you. You just pulled off your ski mask in front of the security camera. Its been tried pal, remember the SOVIET UNION! Move to North Korea.
If you really doubt this then you have had your head in the sand for the past several years.
There are many schools that REQUIRE a child to go see "diversity" plays whether the parents approve or not. They don't even notify the parents that it is going to, or has, happened.
Homosexuality is not a life-style choice. It is what someone IS. Just as you and I are heterosexual, homosexuality is what a person IS. Obviously you believe in god. If so, then you believe that you are made by god. Then it follows that you must, of necessity, believe that god also made people who are homosexual.
G*D made the people but it is Satan that tempts them into homosexuality. If homosexuality was NOT a life-style choice then how could former homosexuals have heterosexual marriages?
Do you know that homosexuality is found very often in the animal kingdom?
There is a VERY large difference between homosexuality in humans and dominance games in the animal kingdom. If you cannot see the difference then you are blinding yourself.
I find it funny that 'nilla's definition of "freedom of speech" includes everything except public religious speak. Thats a no-no and does not qualify as speech. The mental process is baffling.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF..."
I don't see anything about public or private venues...do you? And why is your irrational sense of intimidation supposed to limit my freedom?
Wrong. The government SUPPORT of any expression of religon breaches that wall, NOT the public expression.
I sincerely doubt that any school in this country is teaching children homosexuality.
Then you obviously missed the story on the "fisting" class that was had at a Boston area school last year. In that same class, taped by a participant, the "gay" discussion leaders, openly advocated homosexuality. If that is not teaching, then I do not know what is. This one class is not the only example.
I would guess that what is being taught is TOLERANCE,
Try an follow this. TOLERANCE of this gay whatever you want to call it, is itself a value judgment. Certain religions, Catholicism, for example, teach NOT to Tolerate it. Islam does as well, if I am not mistaken. SO on the one hand, you have a clear religious teaching that is not silent, but outright says NOT TO TOLERATE. Now, you ahve teachers teaching "tolerance" as you would call it. If that tolerance goes directly against a religious tenet, then such "tolerance" takes the form of a religious teaching whether you would acknowledge it or not.
And while we're on the subject, libraries in this country are PUBLIC LIBRARIES, not family libraries. As such, libraries must serve the public who pays the bills.
So, if a community voted on it and voted that their public library would treble their christian holdings and eliminate their homosexual holdings, that would be okay with you?
So get used to this fact and deal with it.
This gratuitous line adds nothing to the conversation.
Instead, it would serve you better to learn tolerance.
You know nothing about me and you know nothing about what I believe. I have incredible tolerance. I tolerate christians equally with homos. I tolerate blacks and whites. Long as the money's green I don't care.
I'm going to say something that is probably going to outrage you, but if you can look beyond your outrage perhaps we can have a discussion. If not, there's no point in continuing as far as I'm concerned.
More gratuitous nothing/
Since you want to talk about homosexuality, then let's do so. Homosexuality is not a life-style choice. It is what someone IS.
So says you. I do not agree.
Just as you and I are heterosexual, homosexuality is what a person IS.
I do not agree. If someone spent their time buggering animals I would not claim that such is normal. Nor would I claim that pedophiles are normal even though they can't seem to help themselves. That homosexuality is considered "normal" is a public policy decision and nothing more.
Obviously you believe in god.
Wrong again, chiefy. I am what would be called a Deist.
If so, then you believe that you are made by god.
No I beleive that I was made by sperm and egg from my mother and father.
Then it follows that you must, of necessity, believe that god also made people who are homosexual.
No I beleive that something in their upbringing caused them to so beleive.
Do you know that homosexuality is found very often in the animal kingdom?
Yeah, and my dog will hump my leg in public, so what?
Or are you so insecure in yourself that you have nothing better to do that persecute people who are different from you?
I have persecuted no one. Nor will I. What people do in the privacy of their homes is their business. It becomes my business, when they try to foist their ideas upon me and my children. Homosexuals are doing just that.
God Bless
Yep. 'Ol 'nilla laid all of his cards on the table with that remark. I figured it was just a matter of time. Im curious where one develops such a thought process where everything except public religious speak falls under "free speech". I've heard many arguments about publically funded religious "whatevers" violating the Constitution(and somewhat agree), but to argue that the mere public mention of something "religious" is unconstitutional, and should thus be punished takes the cake.
And I am confused on something here. It is not offensive
to say God @#$%, but it is offensive to say Praise God.
If my public praying intimidates ANYONE they really need to get a little bravery.
I don't step on anyones beliefs when I pray in public. Even if I ask them to join me they have the option to decline. I will not insist that they join me.
If my act of worshipping causes another to feel that I am "stepping on their beliefs", then it is that person's irrational fears that are the problem...If your stupidity intimidates me, does that mean that I can for you to be silent? I fear not. :{) Have a nice day.
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