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Liberal immigration adds to U.S. woes
Boston Herald ^ | 2/18/02 | Don Feder

Posted on 03/18/2002 5:35:27 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

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To: Sabertooth;Tancredo Fan
Thanks for the ping. numbersusa.com put on some new faxes this weekend that will be going to the Senate on 245(i)
21 posted on 03/18/2002 8:17:33 AM PST by healey22
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To: Sabertooth
You have been presented facts by people who are far more familiar and knowledgeable with this issue than I am, and you have chosen to ignore them, for whatever reason.

It leaves the rest of us with nothing to assume except that the facts do not further your agenda, so you simply continue to post what you need to justify your posts.

23 posted on 03/18/2002 8:18:51 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
You have been presented facts by people who are far more familiar and knowledgeable with this issue than I am, and you have chosen to ignore them, for whatever reason.

This is an appeal to authority fallacy.

I've chosen to do my own homework.

It leaves the rest of us with nothing to assume except that the facts do not further your agenda, so you simply continue to post what you need to justify your posts.

At #10, I posted an INS memo about Section 245, and Section 245(i).

You're an intelligent woman, why do you choose to ignore the facts that I've presented?




24 posted on 03/18/2002 8:23:57 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Kindly point me to the MEMO that says it will involve "tens of thousands" of aliens?
25 posted on 03/18/2002 8:27:32 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
*Sigh* A demonstrable lie.

Please demonstrate.

The White House and INS will tell you that 200,000+ missed out on 245(i) last time. 200,000 is ten's of thousands.

Now if you ask me, or anyone else inside INS, we will tell you this number is low. The INS has always under estimated the number of applicants. I'd bet the number will be around 350,000.

26 posted on 03/18/2002 8:31:45 AM PST by Marine Inspector
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To: Howlin
Kindly point me to the MEMO that says it will involve "tens of thousands" of aliens?

I'm working on that. In the meantime...

Do you acknowledge that Section 245(i) is about Illegals?




27 posted on 03/18/2002 8:33:20 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
I am new here, but there has been little said about the CONSEQUENCES of passing this bill. Mexicans who wish to jump our borders will PERCIEVE this to be an INVITATION to jump our borders. The end result will render the "alleged" numbers of those affected in this bill superfluous !!
28 posted on 03/18/2002 8:35:31 AM PST by conserve-it
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To: conserve-it
I am new here, but there has been little said about the CONSEQUENCES of passing this bill. Mexicans who wish to jump our borders will PERCIEVE this to be an INVITATION to jump our borders. The end result will render the "alleged" numbers of those affected in this bill superfluous !!

Shhh... One mountain at a time.




29 posted on 03/18/2002 8:37:14 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
I would venture to say that you have chipped the first mountain down to a molehill, already!
30 posted on 03/18/2002 8:42:11 AM PST by conserve-it
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To: maica,freee-dame,Sabertooth,Major Malfunction
The American Southwest will be "Kosovo X 100" in a generation, with unassimilated Mexicans playing the Albanians.
32 posted on 03/18/2002 8:43:41 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Sabertooth
Word to the wise: be careful with her, or you will encounter sudden drastic problems with anonymous "admin moderators".
33 posted on 03/18/2002 8:47:17 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Big Meanie
I could handle 200,000 Mexicans in the USA, if they'd send the other 17,800,000 home. How about you?

My problem isn't with Mexicans pre se, and I'm sure that wasn't what you meant.

If someone sat down with such a proposal for dealing with Illegals as you describe, I'd call that a good starting point for a serious conversation.




34 posted on 03/18/2002 8:48:13 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: Howlin
Howlin, by the time illegal immigration advocates get through abusing this latest concession, forced through by the 'Great Appeaser', it'll affect millions of illegal immigrants.

You won't believe this action will have negative consequences for our conservative candidates anymore than Bob Dornan thought voting for 'The Amnesty Act of '86' would cost him his seat in Congress. You'll find out you were just as wrong as he was.

35 posted on 03/18/2002 8:52:47 AM PST by 4Freedom
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To: Travis McGee
"The American Southwest will be "Kosovo X 100" in a generation..."

OR at best, Quebec X 50. Already, as has been documented in this essay, two United States Democratic Senate candidates have debated in Spanish.

36 posted on 03/18/2002 8:54:09 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter,Jeff Head
California is the locomotive pulling the American economy. Califonia's Naval ports are vital to our national security, Long Beach is one of the dozen World Superports.

Imagine what happens to our superpower economy and ability to project power into the Pacific Rim if Kali is a civil war zone.

Think China isn't paying attention?

37 posted on 03/18/2002 8:58:57 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: 4Freedom
Please.......in case you missed it:

Immigration absent from Bush agenda for summit

Now, you ALL said that this bill was FOR Fox and that Bush had pushed it through FOR Fox.........and, of course, once again, you were wrong.

39 posted on 03/18/2002 9:08:47 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Marine Inspector
I hope you're not offended if I WAIT to see what really happens; you guys have been so wrong about Bush in the past, most of us just wait to SEE what happens, rather than JUMP into something we know nothing about.
40 posted on 03/18/2002 9:10:19 AM PST by Howlin
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