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A Disturbing Letter from a Saudi
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | March 15, 2K2 | Saudi Citizen to David Horowitz

Posted on 03/14/2002 9:38:16 PM PST by rdb3

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To: BC93
Looks like we have a new disrupter here...member since March 11, 2002.
61 posted on 03/15/2002 3:04:48 AM PST by Redleg Duke
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To: laconas
I think the ADL budget is shrinking after they had to pay off their big lawsuit, and then came the lawyer's bills. And not too many sheckels are coming out of Israel since Bush cut back thier allowance.

Horowitz wrote this at lunchtime while he was getting a fallafa with extra homus. Inspired by the man behind the cart.

Ahhh, the truth finally comes out. The topic is Horowitz, yet somehow the Anti-Defamation League and Israel are thrown in, mix in the words "sheckels," "fallafa," and "homus," and what do you get? The real reason why you don't care for Horowitz.

You would have been better off if you had just kept quiet. Why you insisted on making such an abominable fool out of yourself here beats the heck out of me.

62 posted on 03/15/2002 3:17:38 AM PST by rdb3
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To: WyCoKsRepublican
We will have to conjugate that in the future tense, unfortunately. V's wife.
63 posted on 03/15/2002 3:23:03 AM PST by ventana
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To: rdb3
Your post #50 - well said.
64 posted on 03/15/2002 3:33:25 AM PST by Bounceback
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To: Jeff Chandler
The local FR Al-Qaeda seminarians usually deliver their scripted slogan messages on Fridays, Muslim sabbath you know. They plug in the drivel wherever they can.
65 posted on 03/15/2002 3:33:39 AM PST by rebdov
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To: WyCoKsRepublican
DEPORT, DEPORT, DEPORT......Do we have to conjugate that?.......

I agree with you. As for the letter, unless it's verified I would not cut and paste it anywhere even if it does sound plausible.

66 posted on 03/15/2002 4:14:32 AM PST by UbIwerks
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To: ventana; UbIwerks
Deportation is not a bad idea, and it is warranted. But no one will address the real question here: How do you go about deporting them?

What's your plan. Spell it out. Break it down.

67 posted on 03/15/2002 4:21:37 AM PST by rdb3
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To: rdb3
Living where I do and speaking Arabic, I hear this sort of thing all the time from Muslims. No suprises here, and whether or not it is genuine in and of itself -- it is genuine in its representation of the majority of Muslim opinion in Egypt if not Saudi Arabia.
68 posted on 03/15/2002 4:28:17 AM PST by father_elijah
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To: Travis McGee
Sadly, I'm afraid it is going to take a "Breath of Fire", before we become truly serious.
69 posted on 03/15/2002 4:42:19 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: ThePythonicCow
Your #24 is very well reasoned!

It's also interesting that the enemies of WWII, after facing horrific devastation, have embraced our culture and have become some of the strongest economic based peoples of the world.

Our weapons of the 21st century, if we are prepared to use them, could rapidly destroy the resolve of our current enemies.

Perhaps, it's unfortunate that we're not prepared to use our strength.

70 posted on 03/15/2002 5:02:03 AM PST by aShepard
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To: TLBSHOW
"In fact far left wing nut, you are a nothing but a commie lover and terrorist helper."

Perhaps BC93 stands for BARTCOP93

71 posted on 03/15/2002 5:13:12 AM PST by SERE_DOC
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To: Colosis
Never a truer word said. The capacity of the left to hate America should not be under-estimated and factored into this war."

The thing that concerns me in this war is that I sometimes think the enemy understands us better than we understand ourselves.

72 posted on 03/15/2002 5:13:32 AM PST by Kerberos
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To: Travis McGee
Makkah Al-Mukarramah,

The name is obviously a fake. But that could be for very good reasons.

The message is on the money. I don't know about the rest of the world's Muslims, but the Arabs are a very subtle and wise people of great native intelligence. What they have engineered in the West is a sort of "Mental Judo," which is using our our strengths and traditions (not to mention our money) as the instruments of our own destruction.

The fact that these people cannot engineer a drinking water system, an oil well, or maintain their own Mercedes air conditioning should not be taken as a sign of stupidity. Their intelligence is turned, in great part, toward our conversion and the death of the culture which nurtures us.

73 posted on 03/15/2002 5:38:03 AM PST by Francohio
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To: rdb3; *Clash of Civilizatio; *Taqiyya list
Bump.
74 posted on 03/15/2002 5:41:17 AM PST by denydenydeny
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To: rdb3,RCW2001
RCW2001 is your resident bash Israel Musli apologist. He gets his regular fixes of Jihad joy by posting bash Israel pieces on a regular basis.
75 posted on 03/15/2002 6:12:39 AM PST by Lent
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To: rdb3
BTTTTTT. Well said.
76 posted on 03/15/2002 6:14:04 AM PST by Lent
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To: rdb3
I think you have just brilliantly illustrated the great knot into which Islam has tied us.

If we take the reasoned Western approach and try to solve the problem, mindful of everyone's rights under the Constitution and our laws, there's a damn good chance we'll be thrown into unbearable civil chaos.

If we take expedient, direct methods to solve our Muslim problem (and yes, we have one) and our Border Problem, and our Illegal Immigrant Problems (which are not-so-slowly killing the America we expected to continue as our fathers knew it and which we wanted for our children), there's a damn good chance we will lose the rights that make us Americans in the first place.

A way out? I hope so ... by VIGOROUSLY enforcing existing laws ... we can do a lot to clean up many problems and still be democratic, with a small "d." Our real problem is that the Democrats (with a big "D,") have ironclad control over the functional, non-elective Federal and State units (Government Bureaus, Educational Bureaucracies, Police, Local Governments, etc.)

The 4-term Roosevelt government was actually a coup, which gave the Federal Government Bureaucracies, and the Democrats who ran them then and now, ever-accruing power akin to Mussolini's or Hitler's bureaucracies. Being American, they are of course hopefully much less oppressive. But they have taken on a life of their own which is not goal-oriented, but like any bureaucracy, self-aggrandizing. They are thus hopeless in the face of any real challenge and increasingly inept in solving even minor problems. Somehow, we have to reverse the results of this dictatorial part of Roosevelt legacy. It's just not working any more.

Islam seriously disrupted and then eventually ended the Byzantine Empire. If we don't figure out a way to combat Islam effectively, it literally could be the beginning of our end.

77 posted on 03/15/2002 6:16:26 AM PST by Francohio
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To: laconas
Interesting how you diverted attention from this story and the reality of Musli mayhem and the hell of this religion more particularly when it is joined at the hip with Pan Arabism. The two make nazi ideology look like kids play.
78 posted on 03/15/2002 6:17:21 AM PST by Lent
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To: Colosis
The Mid-east pictures us as Bill Clinton's and Hollywood's USA. American executive sit around getting BJ's all day. Gangs controll the streets. Women exersize too much governmental control. Housewives spend their day with drugs and their lovers. Other women get abortions. The American military goes out to brutalize those not our allies.

That is what our media presents to these people. The media never projects the good we do.

79 posted on 03/15/2002 6:30:47 AM PST by oyez
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To: Francohio

I think you have just brilliantly illustrated the great knot into which Islam has tied us.

If we take the reasoned Western approach and try to solve the problem, mindful of everyone's rights under the Constitution and our laws, there's a damn good chance we'll be thrown into unbearable civil chaos.

Your comments remind me of several arguments I had with some rather radical libertarians here who insisted on giving those who would be tried in military tribunals full Constitutional rights. I had never heard something so vapid and asinine in my life. They, in their so-called Constitutional zeal, desired to grant the rights afforded to us under our system of government to those who are/were hellbent on killing all of us if they could.

Then I realized something scary.

We have many undocumented illegal aliens in our country who, just by the fact of them being physically within our borders, have full Constitutional rights.

We can't just go bumrush 18-40 year old Middle Eastern men who congregate together without violating the 4th Amendment. We can't shut up their vitriol they spew against America or we'll violate the First Amendment. We can't put an M-16 in their faces and force them to admit to being part of a terrorist organization without violating the 5th Amendment.

Catch the pattern here?

Our precious Constitution, with nothing equal to it in the history of mankind, is now used against us. By enforcing it, we lose power to keep it.

I'm an avid chess player. My main weakness is not to fall into a knight fork, sometimes concentrating so hard on it that I miss moves and end up losing. But that's exactly what we find ourselves in now, the dreaded knight fork. A triple one at that. Immigration, via student visas, is protected by the Constitution. They can peaceably associate among themselves. And they can hide behind the Constitution to carry out their goals. That's three ways we are threatened without a move to get out of the threat UNLESS we violate the Constitution.

This is why, as you've seen here, whenever I hear someone fippantly say "Deport 'em!" I ask, "How?" How do we go about doing it looking at the mess that not only the INS has created, but, protecting Constitutional rights?

So far, no answers. I'm not surprised because it's not an easy scenario to just "fix."

We're in a precarious time. Heaven help us find the solution.

80 posted on 03/15/2002 7:00:44 AM PST by rdb3
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