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15 girls die as zealots 'drive them into blaze' [Saudi Arabia]
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 03/15/2002

Posted on 03/14/2002 4:41:08 PM PST by dighton

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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
Perhaps the President's early characterization of this war as a "Crusade" was accurate, after all...

Bingo! Give the man a cookie. I suggest we all settle in for the long haul. It's going to take a long time to haul 1B people into the 21st Century, jumping from the 12th.

61 posted on 03/14/2002 6:05:46 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: Eugene Tackleberry
Actually, it's worse than that. The raped woman is usually punished afterward.

And just when you thought it couldn't get any worse than that.

In the Islamic Republic, girls condemned to death penalty may not undergo the sentence as long as they are virgin. Thus they are systematically raped by the Islamic Guards before their sentence is executed.

According to the 1992 report of the Special Representative of the Commission of the Human Rights of the United Nations in the Islamic Republic of Iran,

"To rape women prisoners, especially virgin girls, who are accused of being against the regime, is a normal and daily practice in the Islamic Republic's prisons, and by doing so, the clergies declare that they adhere to the merits of the Islamic principles and laws, preventing a virgin girl to go to Heaven. Mullahs believe that these are ungodly creatures and they do not deserve it, therefore they are raped to be sure they will be sent to hell."

62 posted on 03/14/2002 6:07:23 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: El Gato
they'd beat them for having sex with a man not their husband.

No, they would be executed for adultery.

64 posted on 03/14/2002 6:08:48 PM PST by Alouette
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To: oswegodeee
He has also told me that unmarried men are forbidden by Islamic Law to have sex with a girl/women until marriage.. so they do the homo thing in the interum, (which is the main reason he took the job plus the money was awesome).. and most seem to like the boy toy thing so well they continue long after marriage.. what a weird group of beasty boys over there..

This makes me wonder what the AIDS rate is over there. Perhaps the problem is self-correcting...

65 posted on 03/14/2002 6:09:23 PM PST by SauronOfMordor
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To: dighton
Any comment from the Saudi "princes and princesses"?
66 posted on 03/14/2002 6:11:05 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: dighton
Saudi media and families of the victims have been angry over the deaths of the girls in the fire that gutted the school.

What were the girls doing in a school in the first place? Didn't their parents realize that is forbidden in the Koran?

67 posted on 03/14/2002 6:11:06 PM PST by FITZ
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To: the_Watchman
I am a fundamentalist also.
68 posted on 03/14/2002 6:11:56 PM PST by Pushi
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To: Capt. Tom
Mullahs believe that these are ungodly creatures and they do not deserve it, therefore they are raped to be sure they will be sent to hell.

They do not trust allah to be a god worthy of judging who goes to heaven?

69 posted on 03/14/2002 6:12:56 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: dighton
This is an absolutely sickening, insane story.

Doesn't Islam value the preservation of human life above these stupid dress laws? If a Jew is starving to death, he is permitted to eat pork to save his life. I can't believe there is not an exception to this rule -- or that the religious police didn't simply give the girls some blankets to cover themselves once they escaped.

70 posted on 03/14/2002 6:13:37 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: ValerieUSA
Any comment from the Saudi "princes and princesses"?

They'll make a statement saying that in reality the abaya is very liberating.

71 posted on 03/14/2002 6:15:09 PM PST by FITZ
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To: dighton
And the Saudis are the guys with the moral authority to propose a peace plan for Israel and to criticize the way they defend themselves against exploding Pali maniacs? I see.
72 posted on 03/14/2002 6:21:33 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: xm177e2
re:37 As a matter of fact the Jews as a whole didn't refute Jesus, nor criticize Him.. Actually only the uppermost Temple Priests and Pharisees and Sadducees took a true hand in Jesus's crucifixion, by order of the Roman Occupation of the time, and when all was said and done they claimed it was the Jews that killed Christ..

Jesus was indeed a member in good standing for He was upholding the Judaic Law, but at the same time trying to teach all Jews that some laws or rules were indeed needless when it came to helping each other. Yes, He healed on the Sabbath, but just think: Jew or not Jew, wouldn't you be thrilled to bits if you were healed, especially on the Sabbath? He taught brotherly love, even if it meant doing something that some considered work on the Sabbath..He was called Rabbi by many more Jews than the few who called for His death..

The Romans, with the help of the King, incited a small riot amongst some Jews (about 300) in Jerusalem.. They (the Romans) felt Jesus was a threat to the Roman Government..and actually held it over the heads of the High Temple officials to stop Jesus from preaching and teaching, because they felt they were losing control over the Jews of Israel.

Jesus, when looking back at Jerusalem said, "Oh how I longed to gather you as a hen gathers her chicks, but you were not willing".

73 posted on 03/14/2002 6:22:34 PM PST by oswegodeee
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To: SauronOfMordor
This makes me wonder what the AIDS rate is over there. Perhaps the problem is self-correcting...

Sounds like we need to have a new #1 export to Saudi...

74 posted on 03/14/2002 6:24:03 PM PST by null and void
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To: aruanan
Maybe the Saudis would be more at home in certain parts of San Francisco.
75 posted on 03/14/2002 6:26:31 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: ValerieUSA
They do not trust allah to be a god worthy of judging who goes to heaven?

A point well taken. - Tom

76 posted on 03/14/2002 6:26:43 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: dighton
Were my daughter killed because of idiocy like this, some of those religion police would be wishin they were never born about now. I can't believe that all the parents said, "we're angry..."

A nation of psychos.

78 posted on 03/14/2002 6:29:22 PM PST by GhostofWCooper
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To: monkeyshine
Doesn't Islam value the preservation of human life above these stupid dress laws?

a) No.
b) Islam is a religion of peace and love. How dare you ask such a question!
c) Infidel! You in a heap o' trouble now!
d) Hey, they're just worthless women.
e) Yeah, Westerner, and we're coming for your daughter next.

This is a multiple choice test. Answer carefully, because the fate of the West - and our mothers, daughters, wives, and sisters rests on the accuracy of your understanding.

79 posted on 03/14/2002 6:31:14 PM PST by neutrino
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