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Spy Rumors Fly on Gusts of Truth
The Forward ^

Posted on 03/14/2002 8:34:53 AM PST by RCW2001

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To: Justin Raimondo
Why do you think the Bush administration is denying Israel that "extra" $800 mil?

Cause it was a Clinton thing, and the same Clinton-promised aid to Egypt was denied too.

And suddenly proposing a UN resolution endorsing a Palestinian state?

An end-run around the Saudi resolution - a move misrepresented in the press of course. AND some Arab smooching as we prepare to go after Iraq - which will be good for Israel. :)

And barring "foreign nationals" (i.e. Israelis) from "sensitive" jobs?

Israelis were not mentioned in that article.

As for Bush...didn't you once call him 'The First Chimp?' And of course I assume he is 'involved' in the 'art student spy story cover-up.' (wink)

21 posted on 03/14/2002 10:39:41 AM PST by veronica
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To: veronica
I loved this from the OpinionJournal.com:

The best evidence that there's nothing to this spy story, though, is that Justin Raimondo, who runs the crackpot Antiwar.com Web site, has seized upon it as proof of "Israel's 9/11 connection."

22 posted on 03/14/2002 10:43:06 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: veronica
I don't think this word can be used often enough when referring to Justin's website:

 

CRACKPOT

23 posted on 03/14/2002 10:59:39 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: Justin Raimondo
Looks like you had the story down! Wonder if JAMES TARANTO will issue an apology or retraction now?
24 posted on 03/14/2002 11:25:15 AM PST by VinnyTex
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To: VinnyTex
These people never apologize or retract anything. All they do is smear their enemies and quote each other -- an nightmarish echo-chamber of lies and calumny. That's what it means to be an apologist for Power, particularly a foreign power: truth has nothing to do with it. It's all about getting power and keeping it.
25 posted on 03/14/2002 11:42:54 AM PST by Justin Raimondo
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To: Justin Raimondo
The Forward is a notorious antisemitic/anti-Israel rag. Nothing they say can be believed. I am surprised this thread has not been pulled.
26 posted on 03/14/2002 11:50:59 AM PST by LarryLied
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To: larry lied, Vinny Tex, grouchotwo, adacoddington
Sorry gang. Just more rumor and innuendo. NO hard facts, just speculation. Better luck next time. LOL!
27 posted on 03/14/2002 12:05:34 PM PST by veronica
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To: LarryLied
Gee Lar. You spend much time bemoaning Liberals Jews. Now you believe them? :)
28 posted on 03/14/2002 12:07:27 PM PST by veronica
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To: Justin Raimondo
You're going to sue the Wall Street Journal for libel, aren't you, Justine? If you do, I'd live to see the transcripts when you're deposed.
29 posted on 03/14/2002 12:31:30 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: Catspaw
You can't sue someone for being smugly, invincibly stupid. If that were possible, people like you and James Taranto would be born bankrupt.
30 posted on 03/14/2002 1:20:35 PM PST by Justin Raimondo
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To: veronica
Hmmmm...good point. Now why would Liberal Jews go along with this "urban myth?" To poke a stick in everyone's eye? To stir up talk against Jews so they can raise even more money to beat people over the head with?

"Yeah we spy on the USA...so what?...think you can do anything about it?...just you try to say anything...nah..nah...nah!"

31 posted on 03/14/2002 1:22:00 PM PST by LarryLied
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To: Justin Raimondo;veronica
Veronica?...Meet Jughead.
32 posted on 03/14/2002 1:27:02 PM PST by headsonpikes
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To: Justin Raimondo
You're sooo silly....lawyers will sue anyone if you give them enough money. But you need to sue him, you really do! If you put up your deposition on streaming video, I'd pop a bowl of popcorn and enjoy the show.

Paging Larry Klayman! Paging Larry Klayman! Justine needs your help!

33 posted on 03/14/2002 1:27:52 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: LarryLied;Justin Raimondo
"Yeah we spy on the USA...so what?...think you can do anything about it?...just you try to say anything...nah..nah...nah!"

Why were these Israelis filming the Sears Tower in Chicago?

34 posted on 03/14/2002 2:06:20 PM PST by luvzhottea
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To: Justin Raimondo
. And, as for me, all I can say is: Go, Dubya, go!

I join you in saluting our great President George W. Bush!!!!!!!
He is slowly but surely doing the right thing!
He and James Baker are my personal favorites in all of GOP.

35 posted on 03/14/2002 2:11:33 PM PST by luvzhottea
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To: RCW2001
Limited hang-out time!
36 posted on 03/14/2002 3:12:23 PM PST by Tarakotchi
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To: Justin Raimondo; Veronica;
"Common enemy" blah blah blah -- yeah, we get it, guys: They were watching those Ay-rabs the whole damn time, and they knew -- knew in advance -- what they were up to. And, guess what? -- they didn't tell us.

You're a liar. You have never provided one scintilla of evidence that the Israelis knew in advance of 911. You repeat vague, unfounded rumors as fact, repeat the ambiguous phrase, "Israeli angle," and then say, "Aha!" and "BWAHAHAHA!" and anyone who disagrees with you is printing a "smear," that old Buchananite/Rockwellian canard. You say, "I rest my case" ... but you never nade a case! Smugness is no substitute for research and evidence.

Whenever you get into your Israel smear routine, you are such a sorry excuse for a journalist, that you make James Taranto look like a colossus.

37 posted on 03/14/2002 4:02:01 PM PST by mrustow
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To: luvzhottea
James Baker, eh? I prefer Paul Wolfowitz...he is in still in power after all.

From Bush's press conference::::

'QUESTION: Is it becoming a little deeper than that?

BUSH: There's nothing more deep than recognizing Israel's right to exist. That's the most deep thought of all. After all, there are some skeptics who think that nations in that part of the world don't want Israel to exist. The first and most important qualification, it seems like to me for there to be peace, is for people in the region to recognize Israel's right to exist, and therefore policies ought to follow along those lines.'

Go Bush indeed. BTW - do you think Bush is a part of the 'cover-up' of this 'spy story?' LOL...

38 posted on 03/14/2002 4:30:16 PM PST by veronica
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To: mrustow
Try this 9/11: THE TRUTH COMES OUT

In an astonishing story in the Bergen Record, we learn that 5 men described as "Israeli tourists," were picked up 8 hours after the WTC attack, "carrying maps linking them to the blasts." "...[S]ources close to the investigation said they found other evidence linking the men to the bombing plot. 'There are maps of the city in the car with certain places highlighted,' the source said. 'It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park.'"

This news report by Paulo Lima of the Bergen Record on September 12, 2001 (which I posted to FR way before JR's column :) here explains why there has been so much interest in these individuals. These are the same Urban Moving System employees who the Forward now claims are Israeli agents!

39 posted on 03/14/2002 4:33:15 PM PST by Tarakotchi
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To: Tarakotchi
One more time on that link 9/11: THE TRUTH COMES OUT .

(Apologies for linking to there but mrrustow made it a direct topic of discussion.)

40 posted on 03/14/2002 4:37:48 PM PST by Tarakotchi
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