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Officer describes scene where Danielle was found (Preliminary hearing)
Union-Tribune ^ | March 11, 2002 | By Jeffrey J. Rose

Posted on 03/11/2002 12:04:45 PM PST by lady reaper

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To: mewzilla
Less blood on his clothing if he drags her..
61 posted on 03/11/2002 3:08:25 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: Bonaparte
SHe was dragged outside of her home. That is the evidence that came out today. POssibly dragged down the stairs, outside, a nd alongside the house.
62 posted on 03/11/2002 3:10:15 PM PST by Mrs.Liberty
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To: spectre
WHO were the other "party swingers" at the VanDamm house ?

Any possibility that SOMEONE IMPORTANT (leftist with money and bizarre taste)liked to mess with little girls and went too far , and the rest tried to cover it up ?

I thimk there is definitely MORE than one guilty person involved in this child's death and discarding.

63 posted on 03/11/2002 3:11:37 PM PST by hoosierham
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To: Mrs.Liberty
"SHe was dragged outside of her home."

From what I've read today, I'm aware that Feldman says there were drag marks on the sidewalk near the VD's home and that Lt. Collins says he is not aware of such drag marks. Even Feldman did not claim that those drag marks were Danielle's. He only implied that the alleged drag marks could be hers. Can you provide a source that says these drag marks (or any others left in or near the VD home) have been positively identified as having been Danielle's?

64 posted on 03/11/2002 3:31:48 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: UCANSEE2
Or was Gary Condit a guest at their party ? (now I am really out there, huh!)

Yeah,maybe Condit shot her from the grassy knoll? Some of you people make Oliver Stone appear to be rational.

65 posted on 03/11/2002 3:46:50 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: Bonaparte
You are correct..we were led to believe they COULD be hers. Thank you for pointing that out. So to continue then, no I cannot provide SOURCE.
66 posted on 03/11/2002 3:55:48 PM PST by Mrs.Liberty
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To: mewzilla
The drag marks immediately brought up questions for me too. Good catch.
67 posted on 03/11/2002 3:57:37 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: UCANSEE2
Look at the woman that drove her children into a lake to drown them and blamed someone else.

Susan Smith...the pride of the South Carolina penal system...at least she's IN prison.

68 posted on 03/11/2002 4:10:46 PM PST by RangeRatt
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To: Bonaparte
Feldman didn't say the blood on the bannister in the house was Daniells either. In fact, as far as we know, no one has absolutely identified Daniell's blood yet. The DNA test used on Westerfield's jacket only links the blood to the Maternal (Brenda's) side. It could have been Brenda's blood on his jacket. No blood to blood DNA test results info as far as I've heard.

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69 posted on 03/11/2002 4:21:48 PM PST by spectre
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To: Mrs.Liberty
Thank you, ML, for your honesty.
70 posted on 03/11/2002 5:00:26 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: spectre
" In fact, as far as we know, no one has absolutely identified Daniell's blood yet. The DNA test used on Westerfield's jacket only links the blood to the Maternal (Brenda's) side. It could have been Brenda's blood on his jacket."

I may be mistaken, but the stories I recall reading said that the FBI matched the blood in Westerfield's RV and on his clothing to Danielle's DNA, not to Brenda VD's. The SDPD has made other references to "Danielle's blood" found in the RV and on the clothing. Why would the FBI and the SDPD call it Danielle's if it could just as well be Brenda's?

71 posted on 03/11/2002 5:14:42 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: crystalk
Valpal posted this on the other thread..it's very enlightening!


Preliminary Trial Offers Additional Details
Trial Expected To Carry On For Several Days
Posted: 6:19 p.m. PST March 11, 2002

SAN DIEGO -- A scratched-up David Westerfield was "overly cooperative" when detectives questioned him two days after 7-year-old Danielle van Dam was discovered missing, according to preliminary hearing testimony Monday.

Detective Johnny Keene said Westerfield had numerous small scratches on his hand and arm when he was interviewed on his front porch the morning of Feb. 4.

Keene was the final witness on the first day of the hearing to determine if there is sufficient evidence to send the girl's accused killer on to trial. "In my opinion, he was overly cooperative," Keene said. "I've been doing this for 16 years. Typically, when we search people's houses, they don't point out places to look. Usually, they ask why we're searching their house." Keene said Westerfield pointed to a number of places in his "immaculate" home where detectives might want to look, including a stack of boxes and a trap door to the attic.

Westerfield also led detectives to a Poway "mountaintop" where he stored his motorhome and accompanied them to the Northeastern substation in Rancho Penasquitos for what turned into a stay of about eight hours, Keene said.

Keene also told the court that, when first questioning Westerfield, he noticed "numerous" scratch marks on his hand and above his wrist. Westerfield reportedly explained that he got scratched the previous day while digging his motorhome out of the sand along a narrow road in Borrego Springs, the second time the vehicle got stuck that weekend.

Keene also said Westerfield was "sweating profusely" as they spoke, even though it was a cool morning and they were standing in the shade.

The 7-year-old was reported missing the morning of Feb. 2 from her home in Sabre Springs. She was last seen when her father, Damon, put her to bed the night before.

Westerfield, 50, lived two houses away and fell under suspicion after he returned from a weekend trip to the desert.

The twice-divorced father eventually was arrested in the case and pleaded innocent to murder, kidnapping and misdemeanor child pornography in connection with the second-grader's disappearance and death.

The self-employed design engineer was arrested when lab tests showed Danielle's blood on his clothing and in his recreational vehicle.

Westerfield, dressed in a gray suit, sat nearly motionless in his seat with his hands folded in his lap. But he shed his jacket and tie as testimony continued into the afternoon.

Earlier, San Diego police Lt. Jim Collins said Danielle's body was nude, in an advanced state of decomposition and missing a foot when it was found Feb. 27 under a tree near Dehesa Road in El Cajon.

"I saw a body of a young female," Collins told a hushed courtroom. "There was an advanced state of decomposition. She was laying on her back. Her head was facing a tree. Her head was turned to the east. The torso was in an advanced stage of decomposition." "Were any parts missing?" prosecutor Jeff Dusek asked. "Yes," Collins said. "One of her feet was missing."

Later, Chief Medical Examiner Brian Blackbourne testified that Danielle's body had no clothes when found and showed signs of considerable "animal activity."

Blackbourne said skin and muscle tissue was missing from many parts of her body. Also gone was her genitalia, which could make it difficult for prosecutors to prove a sexual motive in her death.

Blackbourne (pictured, right) said he tried to find evidence of a sexual assault during the autopsy, but was hindered by the decomposition of the body.

Asked how long van Dam had been dead, Blackbourne responded, "It's certainly consistent with the three-and-a-half weeks she'd been missing."

He testified that the manner of death was homicide, and that the cause of the child's death is still to be determined, pending additional testing.

Westerfield's defense lawyers focused on the uncertainty over when and how the girl died. Under cross examination, Blackbourne said the autopsy found she had died between two weeks and three-and-a-half weeks before she was found.

Attorney Steven Feldman suggested that Danielle could have died after Westerfield was under 'round-the-clock' surveillance or after he was arrested on Feb. 22.

Feldman also suggested Danielle's father, Damon, might have destroyed evidence by vacuuming after she was reported missing.

Feldman also said crime scene investigators found blood on the stairs and garage of the van Dam home, but he did not provide further details.

Westerfield's neighbor, Christina Hoeffs, testified that she noticed two unusual things at the defendant's home the night the young girl disappeared.

Hoeffs, who lives behind Westerfield's house, told the court she went to bed at 10 p.m. and noticed a backyard light -- which he rarely used -- shining into her window.

The light was still on after 2 a.m. after she tended to her crying infant son, she said.

"I got up and looked out to see why the light was on," Hoeffs testified. "I did notice the house was completely shut up. Every single blind was pulled completely shut."

"Had you ever seen that before?" Dusek asked.

"No," Hoeffs replied.

She also said Westerfield's motorhome was usually on a cross street outside his home for a day or two before his trips to the desert. She testified that when she left her house at 4 p.m. on Feb. 1 and returned at 9 that night, she did not see the motorhome.

Defense attorney Robert Boyce will continue his cross-examination of Keene tomorrow morning.

In an interesting twist, Keene is the brother-in-law of Lupe Dailey, the woman whose husband was convicted in her murder, despite the fact that police never found her body. Before the discovery of Danielle's body, prosecutors had used the Dailey case as an example of successful murder conviction without a body.

At the end of the hearing -- expected later this week -- Superior Court Judge H. Ronald Domnitz will decide if there is enough evidence to try Westerfield on the charges that potentially could carry the death penalty if he is convicted.

72 posted on 03/12/2002 7:53:29 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: Bonaparte
I may be mistaken, but the stories I recall reading said that the FBI matched the blood in Westerfield's RV and on his clothing to Danielle's DNA,

You are correct...

73 posted on 03/12/2002 7:54:18 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: sneakypete
"you people"......

I was being sarcastic, I guess you didn't catch that.

74 posted on 03/12/2002 7:58:23 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
SIGH..shall we start over?
75 posted on 03/12/2002 1:07:35 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Wow. What happened ? I sent an email to Admin Moderator asking why did that get deleted (the PORN FOUND ON ... one). I don't think I made any personal attacks. Nor you. There was a lot of good INFO that FresnoDA put in that last summary and now it is gone.
76 posted on 03/12/2002 1:13:49 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
So, did you have to clean up a lot of downed tree limbs like everyone else ?
77 posted on 03/12/2002 1:18:15 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
We were lucky, no ...our trees are less than 5 ft tall.. but oh man was it a MESS in the older neighborhoods. We had to deal with a similar incident a few years ago before we moved..we had something like 8 truck AND trailor fulls of broken limbs. Our power lines are under ground so we didn't lose power. Were you effected by it?
78 posted on 03/12/2002 1:27:33 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
My electricity was off for over a month. I didn't have any limbs down in my yard at all, though.

So, does it look like DW is the culprit ? Or are the police going for the easy target ?

79 posted on 03/12/2002 1:40:49 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: RangeRatt
There was also Andrea Yates in Texas that , I believe, drowned her children in the tub. Claims the devil made her do it. Boy, I never heard that excuse before. (sarcasm/off)
80 posted on 03/12/2002 1:45:11 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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