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So blame it on the Jews
Sunday Independent (Ireland) ^ | March 10, 2002 | Declan McCormack

Posted on 03/10/2002 9:40:55 AM PST by Happygal

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To: newwahoo
Expansionism? The Muslim dominated UN can go stuff itself like all the other shills pushing Muslim expansion in India, Israel, the Balkans and Russia.

Yeah, Expansionism, as in the Arabs attack Israel with the intent to utterly destroy Israel, LOSE territory instead, and then all they can do is blame it on the evil Jews for the rest of eternity. Go Israel!

41 posted on 03/10/2002 11:34:41 AM PST by OldFashionedAmerican
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To: Incorrigible; aculeus
There's actually a surprizing history of Jews in Ireland.

To your examples I would add an older one. Sylvester, one of the greates mathematicians of the XIX centuries could graduate from Oxford: although he fullfilled all other requirements, the very last one was the test of "rudimentary intelligence" --- a public acceptance of Jesus Christ as lord and savior. This is the only requirement that Sylvester failed.

He moved to... Dublin, to Trinity: clearly no less Christian than the English schools, Trinity was more open-minded.

Paranthetically I could add that troubles of that kind have kept up with Sylvester throughout his life until, at the end of it, he was invited to chair the first mathematics deprtment on the American soil. One more time the European loss became our gain: Sylvester founded the first Mathematics Department -- at Jogn Hopkins -- that graduated its first flock in 1870 or so (to wit).

42 posted on 03/10/2002 11:40:59 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: rebdov
Some FR Al-Qaeda members think they are clever by using left-handed compliments to Israel to 'conceal' their Jew hatred, but foul screed by any other name will still stink.

Wow...

Let me clue you in on something important. Bush has the approval he does because he came out and said we are going to flush these terrorists out, hunt them down and kill them.

He didn't whine. He didn't say everyone hates Americans.He acted like a man. And he got respect he deserved.

Get the point?

43 posted on 03/10/2002 11:42:10 AM PST by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
no one would guess America is solidly behind Israel, that conservatives are leading the charge to see that Israel does live in peace,

Of course you are correct on both counts.

I do not think the article was written from an American perspective, however. If you visited Europe recently, you may know how venerably "post-Christian," anti-American and anti-Israeli it has become. That's what the author sees.

44 posted on 03/10/2002 11:47:52 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: LarryLied
Ariel Sharon said the same thing and deseves the same respect. Got it?
45 posted on 03/10/2002 11:51:11 AM PST by vance
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To: OldFashionedAmerican
"Yeah, Expansionism, as in the Arabs attack Israel with the intent to utterly destroy Israel, LOSE territory instead, and then all they can do is blame it on the evil Jews for the rest of eternity. Go Israel!"

Yeah, it was all peace and love before 1967. I pray for everyone that lives on Islam's borders. The Cold War borders at least had a degree of stability. The people that live in Chechnya or in Kashmir or in Sudan live their lives under the gun. They are all truly brave folks.

46 posted on 03/10/2002 11:52:37 AM PST by newwahoo
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To: LarryLied
Let me clue you in on something important. Bush has the approval he does because he came out and said we are going to flush these terrorists out, hunt them down and kill them. Larry, I respect Bush and love my country no less than you do. Yet, let us wait and see how far we are going to progress with that.

We kept saying that we would wipe out commies from Vietnam. For years. Yet the nation chose to betray its military there.

We talked about terrorism for decades. True, Regan bombed Gaddafi, but he did literally nothing to avenge hudreds of our boys whom he had sent to Lebanon. We knew who did it, we knew were they were, and the Sixth Fleet was ready. He did not move a finger --- on the advice of Powell, I hear.

Remember that marine who was beaten to death in mid-1980s during an airplane hijacking by the Arabs? A decade later we named a warship after him --- truly, a severe punishment to terrorists.

So, you and I may give all the support to the President. Let us see whether the rest of the country will do so for more than a few months.

48 posted on 03/10/2002 11:56:50 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: newwahoo
The people that live in Chechnya or in Kashmir or in Sudan live their lives under the gun. They are all truly brave folks.

Of the 29 armed resurgencies in the world, 26 involve Muslims fighting agains someone else --- Israelis, Hindus, Serbs, Russians, Georgians, Phillipinos --- you name it.

49 posted on 03/10/2002 11:59:13 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: vance
Ariel Sharon said the same thing and deseves the same respect.

Sharon is fine with me (althought I don't know why today he let Arafat off the hook). Bibi is better though. I was referring to the endless series of whining aritcles we see posted on FR daily.

My guess is the endless bashing Sharon has taken affected him. See the same thing in Ashcroft. Getting savaged by liberals does take a toll.

50 posted on 03/10/2002 12:01:33 PM PST by LarryLied
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To: rebdov
Arguing with haters just gives them the opportunity to drop more toilet roses. Get out the truth without uselessly engaging them.

You seem to be the one dropping stuff out of the toilet. Is this your opinion or did the JDL give you some really old material?

53 posted on 03/10/2002 12:06:28 PM PST by harrowup
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To: newwahoo
No easy answers, to be sure. I just unashamedly side with people who appear to me to have the guts to stick it out, when a good portion of the world appears bent upon their destruction. I know that they're doing it (Surviving) is due in no small part to the firepower that we supply them, which kind of says to me, just where would they be (The Jewish people) without America's support? I suspect that most of them would be dead. I say it again, Go Israel!!!! P.S. I am not of Jewish descent (Italian/Swedish).
54 posted on 03/10/2002 12:06:34 PM PST by OldFashionedAmerican
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To: TopQuark
"Of the 29 armed resurgencies in the world, 26 involve Muslims fighting agains someone else --- Israelis, Hindus, Serbs, Russians, Georgians, Phillipinos --- you name it."

We might be in the process of trading Iron Curtain borders for Iron Veil ones. Amazing to think that the new enemy has already killed more Americans directly than the Soviets ever did (I'm excluding American casualties at the hands of Soviet and Chicom weapons in the hands of North Vietnam, of course).

56 posted on 03/10/2002 12:08:52 PM PST by newwahoo
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To: stixnstones
I've seen it all on this site, so I kind of take people at their word until I'm SURE that they are kidding.
57 posted on 03/10/2002 12:10:41 PM PST by OldFashionedAmerican
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To: OldFashionedAmerican
"which kind of says to me, just where would they be (The Jewish people) without America's support?"

I guess it all depends on your personal thoughts about the firepower of heaven. Some of Israel's greatest victories happened long before any real American support as far as weaponry, unless you count old re-gunned Shermans from WWII as help. Like I said, a lot depends on what takes place in your heart and soul and how you think that affects men in the heat of battle. Its the aspect of military history that I think is the hardest to decipher and comprehend.

58 posted on 03/10/2002 12:16:42 PM PST by newwahoo
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To: Happygal
Yeay, Ireland! Yeay, Declan McCormack!
59 posted on 03/10/2002 12:19:02 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Bold Fenian
So, how could it fail to embrace a nation that has called the illegal (US-funded) settlement of the West Bank and Gaza the "Ulsterization" of the territories?!

Well, could you clarify something for us?

When was Israeli settlement in the West Bank "illegal"? When it occurred during the original Mandate? When Israel owned the West Bank before the Arab Legion took it for the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan? After Israel took it back in the Six-Day War?

Just when are we talking about?

Oh, and is Jewish settlement in Palestine "illegal" because the Mohammedans say it is, and because they call it "the Hijaz", and insist that unbelievers not be allowed to soil it? One wonders, have they cleared that policy with the Emperor Justinian? With the Emperor Constantine? With Pompey the Great? How about Antiochus III, or Alexander himself? With Darius III Codomannus? Just who has "sovereignty" over the West Bank? The deal on Palestinian statehood isn't done -- Yassir Arafat, the Great Greasy Human Rat, kicked over the table and shot out the lights. So who is going to say that the Israeli settlements are "illegal"? Arafat?

60 posted on 03/10/2002 12:36:44 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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