Posted on 03/08/2002 1:24:33 PM PST by sarcasm
WRONG, it's this section
INA: ACT 288 - LOCAL JURISDICTION OVER IMMIGRANT STATIONS
No, debate with a person who doesn't understand the consitution is fun. I would hate to resort to personal attacks. It might scare him away. Now Twodees. . . . where did he go after being backhanded again with real facts.
Translation: my correcting Twodees and the Marine Professor regarding congress' excluse powers to regulate immigration not withstanding,
You're right. Different section, same result. That gives the state LEOs jurisdiction over a federal office when a state law is violated. Immigration is not state law. You know that. I KNOW you do.
Sad LOL. Well spoke, that. Peace, friend.
I think it was HL Mencken who said that if things could be changed by voting, then voting would have been outlawed long ago. Until we break the monopoly held on the electoral process by the "two" parties, voting will have little effect. I guess you noticed that there was almost no difference between Bush and Gore in the campaign. Bush sold his candidacy by demonstrating that he could get Gore's agenda passed better than Gore could have.
We have to somehow get candidates onto the ballot who aren't slaves to the existing political order. I think that starting at the county level is the only hope. If we have only 10-20 years left, then working within the established system will fail us.
That is the goofiest thing I ever read. Eugenicists??? No one on here cares how much the Mexicans breed if they stay in Mexico. The problem is there is a Mexican president now who feels it's his right to export any Mexican citizen he doesn't want to the US. Maybe he's the eugenicist?
Just like they may have jurisdiction over a post office when a state crime has occured there. Immigration laws, which are ONLY promulgated by congress by way of the consitution, ARE NOT VIOLATIONS OF STATE LAW.
Danevogado, I really don't care about this particular question, since regardless of who is administering the law, it is being purposefully administered badly so as to flood us with illegal aliens.
However, Marine Inspector and others have already debunked your claims about what the Constitution says, which you have ignored. And yet you go on citing the Constitution as though nothing happened.
There is a big difference between what current laws on the books say and what certain central-government worshipping people say, and what the Constitution actually says. No state would attempt to enforce its own borders in a manner consistent with the Constitution, even if it thought it would eventually win in court, because the central government has a stranglehold on funding which the states have become dependent on: highway funding, education funding, money for various welfare programs. It doesn't pay to go against the centralized power in Washington, so in practice the states will comply; but that's the result of a century or two of power struggles designed to circumvent the meaning of the Constitution.
Your problem is that you constantly confuse Realpolitik with what the Constitution actually says. Just because a law citation or a federal regulation says it is so, does not make it so.
IIRC, some son or otherwise close relative of a honcho in a Middle East terrorist pit was actually an officer in the US military. Seems he left for home shortly after 9-11.
It seems that power has been turned over to President Fox of Mexico. I wonder what he knows or what he's paid someone to have been given the authority to dictate US immigration policies. If every last Mexican isn't given a place in the US, it's considered eugenics.
That is correct. Immigration is not a state law, but your original argument was that the States could not enforce Immigration Law, and they can. The can also shut down the Border crossing station at their will.
If Governor Hall decided tomorrow morning that she had had enough illegal immigration, and she convinced the state legislature that they had also had enough, she could deploy the state national guard to the borders and close them down.
INS would not stop her, and Bush and his gang would have a hard time stopping her also.
As a bonus to Bush, at least around FR parts, he receives resounding huzzahs from the mouth-breathing faithful. For passing Gore's agenda.
Kiss My VoteWe're a nation strong with immigrants
Who know about fair play;
But you prefer the other ones,
Without an honest day.
I know that you will call me names
But I will not be shy
Hey go ahead, kiss illegals,
And kiss my vote goodbye.I don't care if they're from Mexico,
Canada, France or Spain.
I don't care if they swam a river,
Or got here in a plane.
I'm not giving up my country,
No matter how hard you try
Hey go ahead, kiss illegals,
And kiss my vote goodbye.Put down your economics,
Your demographics too.
Uphold our laws and borders,
As we elected you.
But if you're thinking otherwise,
We'll know for sure you lie
Hey go ahead, kiss illegals,
And kiss my vote goodbye.You lightly take your promises,
But we will not forget.
Double cross us once again,
Your sun will surely set.
The time has come to send them home,
And I have told you why
But go ahead, kiss illegals,
And kiss my vote goodbye.And if you' think it can't be done,
Then step aside, we'll fight.
It's amnesty or honesty,
Surrender or be right.
So listen, you politicians,
And hear our vengeful cry
Deport your dear illegals,
Or kiss our votes goodbye.
When it does happen, expect the border states to become literal battlegrounds. Unfortunately, as you point out, the chaos will not be limited strictly to the border states.
It is the prospect of this impending meltdown that has me seriously pondering a move north from Texas.
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