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WHY LEGALIZE MARIJUANA?
Voy forum ^ | 2-19-2 | Marc-Boris St-Maurice

Posted on 02/20/2002 6:08:45 AM PST by Magician

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To: A CA Guy
a diversion worthy of Dane
601 posted on 02/21/2002 6:02:42 PM PST by dmz
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To: Magician
"WHY LEGALIZE MARIJUANA?"

So Libertarians will stop posting on Free Republic. That's reason enough for me.

602 posted on 02/21/2002 6:10:02 PM PST by Barnacle
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To: A CA Guy
Drug dealers would fall in love with your for your views

Not quite...they are the first ones who would go bankrupt in a legalized nation. They, the big dealers, like FARC and the Cartels do NOT want legalization at all..it would prevent them from making mad money in the black market.

I heard a rumor a few years back that some of the more generous "anonymous" donations to stuff like DARE were of a highly suspect origin....hmmmmm....
603 posted on 02/21/2002 6:13:23 PM PST by WyldKard
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To: Kevin Curry
Why? Because libetarians desperately want their dope and are willing to accept more nanny-state socialism to get it.

You really ought to try to get a little use out of yuor brain. Really, thinking doesn't hurt very much after you get used to it.

604 posted on 02/21/2002 6:22:35 PM PST by Aarchaeus
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To: Aarchaeus
Spell check doesn’t hurt very much after you get used to it.
605 posted on 02/21/2002 6:36:12 PM PST by Barnacle
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To: dmz
Three Dog Night a buzz-kill? I don't think so. I have heard good things about the Grateful Dead, though. Thanks. But if I have to wait for marijuana to be legalized it'll probably be awhile before I can test the Grateful Dead. sigh. Heard Bob Dylan's pretty good, too.
606 posted on 02/21/2002 8:11:06 PM PST by lara
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To: A CA Guy
Booze to the level of drunk can be just as illegal as using illegal drugs, of course.

Illegal drugs are criminal and intoxication can in many cases be illegal as well.

Intoxication is only typically illegal when operating a moving vehicle, and it isn't the intoxication that is illegal in itself. Name me one example where intoxication of liquor itself is illegal. You can't, because unless it is something that directly involves the public saftey, it isn't.

Sorry that went soaring above your head as it did. I try to write at a low comprehension level to help people like you understand better.

You do have a knack for saying a whole lot of nothing with a large amount of words.....perhaps you could work for the Washington Post...

607 posted on 02/21/2002 9:09:45 PM PST by Nate505
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To: Nate505
Name me one example where intoxication of liquor itself is illegal

Do ordinances count? "Public intoxication" is a misdemeanor where I come from.

608 posted on 02/21/2002 10:45:53 PM PST by Pistias
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

What offends you more, pot itself or what you perceive as the "drug culture"?

He's not offended, IMO. He may come across that way but it's all he's got. I mean, he has minimized his usefulness towards the lowest end of a continuum. I suspect that if drugs were decriminalized he'd perish. Whether he's a DEA JBT or an ex-postal worker collecting a government disability check or a troll or ______, is irrelevant.

609 posted on 02/21/2002 10:54:02 PM PST by Zon
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To: A CA Guy

This country is founded on mostly Christian principles and God is written into many of the founding documents. There isn't a mainstream Christian faith that is for illegal drug use.

What do you think about bearing false witness?

610 posted on 02/21/2002 11:05:54 PM PST by Zon
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To: Dane

It is funny watching you Libertarians play your little paranoid games.

Paranoid of you? Get real. You're a pipsqueak.

BTW, I've stated several times on this forum and a few times to you that I'm not a libertarian. Apparently you lied or are just incompetent. Take your pick.

611 posted on 02/21/2002 11:06:08 PM PST by Zon
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To: clamper1797

To me VA's JBT statement ranks #1 in absolute stupidity and statism followed by CJ's right to happiness.

That's the same rank I've attributed them.

612 posted on 02/21/2002 11:06:21 PM PST by Zon
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To: vin-one
I know what you're saying. I can't get past the view that doing recreational drugs is bad. And, I also can't past the view that the only action that is legitimately punishable is an action that initiates force, fraud or coercion against a person.

If recreational drug use abruptly stopped, there would still be initiation of force -- it would be minimally effected. If initiation of force abruptly stopped recreational drug use would steadily decrease to almost nothing.

613 posted on 02/21/2002 11:06:26 PM PST by Zon
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To: ThomasJefferson

A CA Guy wrote: This country is founded on mostly Christian principles and God is written into many of the founding documents. There isn't a mainstream Christian faith that is for illegal drug use.

There ya go, claiming that God has somehow commanded you to use guns and violence to lock people in cages for having vices. You will have a lot of explaining to do at the judgement.

ROTFLMAO!!!!

614 posted on 02/21/2002 11:06:32 PM PST by Zon
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To: ThomasJefferson
Deserves repeating...

He claims to hate them because they remind him of his use of all kinds of drugs. He has committed crimes because of drugs and he is reminded that he is a weak willed loser whenever he sees someone use them who isn't overcome by them.


615 posted on 02/21/2002 11:07:26 PM PST by Zon
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

I'm interested in finding out whether you think:

A) the act of smoking pot makes one a leftist, socialist, Marxist member of the Drug Culture, or
B) those attracted to leftist, socialist, or Marxist causes and politics might also be attracted to the counterculture, aka the "Drug Culture."

Okay, enough of that. You're being down-right logical.

616 posted on 02/21/2002 11:07:38 PM PST by Zon
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To: truenospinzone
Why is it that you refuse to actually participate in a discussion, and instead just parrot the same half-truths over and over and over again?

He claims to hate them because they remind him of his use of all kinds of drugs. He has committed crimes because of drugs and he is reminded that he is a weak willed loser whenever he sees someone use them who isn't overcome by them. 416

I mean, he has minimized his usefulness towards the lowest end of a continuum. I suspect that if drugs were decriminalized he'd perish. Whether he's a DEA JBT or an ex-postal worker collecting a government disability check or a troll or ______, is irrelevant. #609


617 posted on 02/21/2002 11:08:12 PM PST by Zon
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To: Dane

Timothy Leary isn't particularly relevant to the issue at hand. 435

LOL! That's like saying that Hitler isn't particulary relevant to World War II.

If what you said were true then a survey would show that there's as many people that know who and what Hitler was as there are people that know who and what Timothy Leary was. What a hoot you are. Your "batting average" is about a .023 and you think that's stellar.

618 posted on 02/21/2002 11:08:24 PM PST by Zon
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To: truenospinzone;ThomasJefferson;dcwusmc

So you wanting to stick your nose in other citizens business by putting them in jail for using non-approved substances doesn't count? 463

The WODer accuses someone else of "sticking his nose in other people's business". I think that calls for one of Dane's patented "LOL!"s.

I never read a post where CJ used the "sticking your nose in other people's business" terminology prior to when the below quote was posted. Shortly after was the first time I saw CJ use the idea/phrase/terminology. Since then it has become a regular part of his terminology. Obviously the terminology is common so he could have picked it up anywhere. The first time I saw him use it he inverted the original intent -- similar to what you pointed out. Here's the first time I used it on this forum:

"Fortunately, there is firm grounding in this: Do not abide by the notion of do unto others as you would have others do unto you. Leave people alone to create their life as they see fit so long as they do not initiate force, fraud or coercion.

"When a person initiates force the victim and his or her agent (police or good Samaritan) may exercise their highest mortal right -- the right of self-defense and physical survival. And that ought to be all that a person sticks their nose into another person's business unless invited to associate with another person." 110

www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/583546/posts?page=110#110
110 posted on 12/11/01 12:07 AM Pacific by Zon
Woman says son unfairly punished for not reporting student with gun

I posted that or similar several times over the following few weeks. Each time it included the "sticks their nose into another's business" terminology. I checked my database and below is the dialog from whence I first noticed CJ using the terminology. In particular note his #91 post.

Cultural Jihad injects into a discussion: And maybe you should quit being judgmental and learn to mind your own business.46

Zon: Gesh. They're carrying on a discussion and around about the sixth exchange you jump into their discussion and tell one of them to mind their own business. Idiocy knows no bounds.90

Cultural Jihad: It raises an interesting point, how empty the chest-thumping of the rugged individualists is among the ideologues who squat on FR. "Everyone is to be left alone to do their own thang!" is their clarion cry, but then we hear them acting like nosy-bodies, sticking their noses into everyone else's bidness: "How much extortion were your taxes this year?!" and "That man over there is getting harrassed by the pigs for scarfing his spliff, man!" We soon learn how un-lizard-like their detachment from their surroundings really is, and their cherished label of individualism is invalidated by their very participation in political discussions. 91

Zon: I don't get it. You're extrapolating on how you jumped in the middle of a discussion between two people to tell one of the persons to mind their own business. That's what you're extrapolating on? Wow!! 95

Culutural Jihad: Exactly my point! The fact that you are being critical of another person's free speech means you are no individualist, but rather someone busy sticking his nose into other people's affairs. Good for you! 93

Zon: "Don't p*ss down my back and tell me it's raining" -- Outlaw Joie Wales 96

So you'd have me and the other readers believe that you intended to jump in to play the kettle and call the pot black. LOL!!! Sorry dude, that dog won't hunt here. 96

www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/595517/posts?page=90#90
Trashy Yard still bothers neighbors; man says he just needs more time
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619 posted on 02/21/2002 11:08:30 PM PST by Zon
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To: ThomasJefferson

The other guys don't know much about God if they come onto every thread and bear false witness. I always ask them why they think God wants them to use guns on people who have vices, they never answer. They will get a chance to stand in front of him and say, "Don't worry God, I took your place down on earth when you were tardy in cleaning up the mess, aren't you proud of me? I handled the stuff you obviously couldn't handle, so where is my room?"

It should be an interesting scene.

I wonder their reaction looking upon the mirror and are thunderstruck by their realization at how 180% wrong they've been. They may hurry their meeting with God by blowing their brains out in self-disgust at who they really are. Probably not the pipsqueaks on this forum but I think several JBTs and other assorted politicians and bureaucrats will.

620 posted on 02/21/2002 11:08:42 PM PST by Zon
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