Hollywood's War Against the South

Lewrockwell.com ^ | 2-18-2 | Franklin Harris

[Non-Sequitur]

Uh, that war was "committed" by the Northern aggressors, sir.

Uh, that war was comitted by the Davis government which fired upon Union forces lawfully stationed in a federal facility. It was committed by the Davis government which issued a declaration of war on April 17, 1861. You can try and place the blame elsewhere all you want but the long and the short of it is that the south started the hostilities and the North finished them.

[Non-Sequitur]

"To Kill a Mockingbird" is set in Alabama and is full of southerners whose ideas of right and wrong and justice and injustice were colorblind. At a time when those ideas were hard to find, north or south.

[groanup]

"Uh, that war was comitted by the Davis government which fired upon Union forces lawfully stationed in a federal facility"

And I suppose if North Korea had a military facility in New York Harbor we shouldn't fire on them either.

[aomagrat]

I spent the weekend with my Dad, who lives in Laguna Beach CA, and works in the Laguna Nigel post office. He was born and raised in South Carolina and has never lost accent despite having lived in California for a decade. Yesterday he told me that, while at work at the post office, he had been approached by some hollywood type who told my dad that he had the perfect voice for a cartoon the hollywood type was working on, and wanted my dad to go to hollywood for an audition. My dad unloaded on the hollywood dude. "I'll be damned if you're going to use my voice to make fun of the south! Not for all the money in hollywood! Get out of here!"

I am so proud of my dad.

[Non-Sequitur]

As anologies go that one is pretty thin. Fort Sumter was a federal facility built with U.S. taxpayer money in the harbor of a city in the United States. It was that way before South Carolina entered into rebellion and there was no reason why the troops there should have just walked away from it. The troops there had committed no hostile acts. They did not interfere in any way with the shipping traffic in or out of the harbor. They posed no threat to the people in Charleston. Yet the confederates felt compelled to initiate hostilities then and there.

[sweetliberty]

Thought you'd like to see this.

[BamaDi]

my biggest complaint about all these movies based on the south is that not one of those hollywood types can do a southern accent worth a damn....what's so funny though is that as many times as i've been to europe and to nyc, the one thing that always breaks the ice with folks is my southern accent....i'm proud of it and it burns the hell out of me to hear these so called actors and actresses attempt something that comes across as absolutely grating on the ears....i loved it when the critics went insane over Kevin Costner's attempt at a british accent in robin hood but could care less how bad fake southern accents are....

[wimpycat]

My dad unloaded on the hollywood dude. "I'll be damned if you're going to use my voice to make fun of the south! Not for all the money in hollywood! Get out of here!"

I wish they would use more real Southerners' accents to get a good Southern accent right. Aside from demonizing the South, most Hollywood actors couldn't conjure up a real Southern accent if their lives depended on it. The best they can do is some generic "Hollywood-Southern" accent that usually sounds something like a Georgia accent ("evuh" and "nevuh"). Totally unconvincing, especially when they get the region or class all wrong. There are only a few actors and actresses who can do a good Southern accent. Off the top of my head, Robert Duvall, of course, does a great job. Robert De Niro (Bang the Drum Slowly and Cape Fear) also does a convincing Southern accent. Jessica Lange sounded convincing in Sweet Dreams, although I'm not familiar with the western Virginia accent where she came from. Kevin Spacey sounded great in Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil, although I don't know if he was faithful to the Savannah accent.

I'm sure there are several more, but by and large, Hollywood actors totally suck at Southern accents.

[groanup]

There are a lot of versions of the Fort Sumpter story. I believe that The South decided it was too dangerous to have a foreign military facility drawing a bead on shipping lanes in one's own country.

[wimpycat]

Oh, and add to my previous post, Martin Sheen totally sucked as Robert E. Lee in Gettysburg. I haven't gotten over that one yet. He made him look and sound crazy, if you ask me. Robert Duvall would have done a much better job.

[Righty1]

White males are fair game. The reason the South gets such a pounding from the hollywood libs is that their males, particularly the white ones, have not sufficiently capitulated to PC socialist femiNazis.

[Dawgsquat]

#7. That's a flag I can embrace.

[Dawgsquat]

ConfederateFlags.org

[murdoog]

Ang Lee’s "Ride With the Devil" is a masterful tale of Civil War brutality. It plays fair with both sides and includes a wonderful speech in which a Southerner explains why the South cannot win the war. (It boils down to the North’s puritanical impulse to "improve" the world, never mind what those to be improved may think. Against that, the South’s desire merely to be left alone is no match.)

An excellent film!! For more discussion of RWTD, click here

[WhiskeyPapa]

I mean, what is the moral justification for keeping the southern states in the union against their will?

"And this issue embraces more than the fact of these United States. It presents to the whole family of man, the question, whether a constitutional republic, or a democracy--a government of the people, by the same people--can or cannot, maintain its territorial integtrity against its own domestic foes. It presents the question, whether discontented individuals, too few in numbers to control administration, accroding to organic law, in any case, can always, upon the pretenses made in this case, or on any other pretenses, or arbitrarily, without any pretense, break up their government, and thus practically put an end to free government upon the earth. It forces us to ask: "Is there in all republics, this inherent, and fatal weakness?" "Must a government, of neccessity, be too strong for the liberties of its own people, or too weak to maintain its own existance?"

A. Lincoln, 7/4/61

Walt

[WhiskeyPapa]

When invaded, the South had either to defend itself or surrender.

Thieves will sometimes fire back when pursued.

And the secessionists were no better than common thieves.

Walt

[WhiskeyPapa]

The South had been assured by Stanton that Fort Sumter -- in Charleston Harbor -- would be evacuated.

Stanton was not Secretary of War when Fort Sumter was attacked.

Walt

[vetvetdoug]

You conveniently left out the fact that Lincoln was sending a fleet to reinforce Sumter in spite of what he had told the Confederate peace delagation that was in D.C. at the current time. You also left out the fact that Sumter was in the South, was a part of South Carolina, and the US government had turned over all of the garrisons within the South, except Pennsacola and Sumter, since they were part of the South. You also left out that the South had been feeding the men of Sumter since the North had not fed or sent food to the garrison for months. Lincoln mislead the South, lied to them, used Sumter as a reason for war and to invade the South. There is more than enough evidence and documented proof to confirm what I just wrote.