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Milosevic: [Clinton] Was Ally of Al Qaeda in Kosovo
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| Fri Feb 15, 1:08 PM ET
| Andrew Roche
Posted on 02/15/2002 11:11:17 AM PST by Spar
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To: Mladic Garde
the question he posed was: Were you IN Serbia for any length of time? Where were you if you were? What time frame if you were? No I wasn't, and I could be wrong about the extent of distribution of the smaller free presses. I do know some Serbs in Germany, but then they support the opposition side. I also know a lot of U.S. soldiers who were there. What basically got me is people here painting Milosovic as a benevolent, pro-democracy leader, when in fact he is a murderous nationalist.
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02/17/2002 2:04:08 AM PST
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Quila
To: Spar
You mean like what happened with Gore in Florida, Quila??? How did I know someone would bring that up? Gore was not a sitting president, he was one of two non-presidential candidates. And GW took office after the Supreme Court made a final ruling. There had to be riots in the streets and trashing of government offices before Milosovic left. And you know he wouldn't have left if the Army hadn't deserted him.
Gee Quila, if it's illegal and subversive for the Chinese to contribute in our American political system it seems only fair that the Yugoslavs would feel the same about Clinton money.
Was that illegal under Serbian law?
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posted on
02/17/2002 2:08:03 AM PST
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Quila
To: Zviadist
So why then doesn't Bush say "we don't need this Balkan jerk-off, we have bigger fish to fry elsewhere" and bring all the Americans home Have we ever learned from history?
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02/17/2002 2:10:26 AM PST
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Quila
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To: Quila
Have we ever learned from history?
Good point. What was I thinking?
To: Quila
By the way, the rest of your analysis of Serbia and the war is deeply flawed. I also was in Europe for the war, but I would bet a good deal closer than you were. I am not going to refute your points one-by-one unless you would like me to, but your views are incorrect on many major points.
To: Spar
I heard Clinton and Allbright are on his witness list..This is one trial I am anxious to see..however my guess is he will die of a mysterious illness before the trial!
To: Zviadist
I also was in Europe for the war, but I would bet a good deal closer than you were. Undoubtedly. My information is only off of European and U.S. media, Serbs and Croats I know, and soldiers and officers I know who were there from 92 to present in various capacities. Who knows, out of all of that I could have gotten a poorly painted picture, but it couldn't be that far off.
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02/17/2002 5:09:40 AM PST
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Quila
To: Quila
Cheers. We'll talk about it sometime. I didn't mean to sound rude, by the way.
To: Zviadist
Milosevic is certainly making some strong points about the al-Qaida in Albania and Clinton's support for the terrorists. But remember that show trials never end in acquittals. With that in mind, his "guilty" verdict will not be for the grandiose charges of "genocide," or "crimes against humanity." He'll probably be convicted for signing the death warrant of some murderer in a Serbian prison.
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posted on
02/17/2002 6:02:01 AM PST
by
bimbo
To: Quila
I used to listen to Radio Moscow on shortwave in the mid-80s, and it's hilarious how much it is really self-serving propaganda with almost no truth content. And the contrast with NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, AOLTIMEWARNER is ... ???
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02/17/2002 6:10:52 AM PST
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bimbo
To: bimbo
And the contrast with NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, AOLTIMEWARNER is ... ??? You've seen nothing. Constant "record wheat harvest" reports when we know we're shipping massive amounts to keep them from starving and other stuff like that. The negative comments about the West and our societies were funny. Perhaps the best was during the '84 election where Radio Moscow was almost one huge Mondale commercial -- the last thing they wanted was Reagan to stay in office.
You just don't know how far totalitarian countries go to keep their people misinformed, the "slanted news" we have is a poor attempt at best. I have a friend who has an East German map of East Berlin and the surrounding area from the Cold War era. West Berlin is on the map as one big green park. You could see West Berlin over the wall, but the map says it's not there -- and you'd better not say otherwise.
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02/17/2002 12:54:29 PM PST
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Quila
To: Zviadist
No prob -- always willing to learn more from another viewpoint.
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02/17/2002 12:57:15 PM PST
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Quila
To: Mladic Garde
Those soldiers are seeing "what they want to see" from the locals. The locals are not seeing Serbs how they really are. No one I know has said anything bad about any individual Serbs they've met.
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02/17/2002 12:57:17 PM PST
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Quila
To: Vojvodina
Thanks!!
To: Robert357
tHE ONLY THING GOOD ABOUT INTERNATIONAL SHOW TRIALS IS THAT THEY SOMETMES SHOW UP THE CRIMINALITY OF THOSE IN CHARGE OF THE TRIAL THEMSELVES: AS IN THIS INSTANCE.
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02/17/2002 7:02:02 PM PST
by
norton
To: Vojvodina
Vojvodina...Is the date on the photo 1944 ??
To: kimosabe31
Yup... and it says (if I see correctly): "Photographed by Atsa Simich, 1944".
I've just finished writing a MASSIVE essay [first draft, though] on Kosovo [cca. 1470-2002]. Yeah, pretty damn ambitious... Haven't slept a wink. I am off to bed... I'll play some early Beach Boys... they ought to get me dozing off in no time...as always! LOL! :)
Cheers
To: Quila
Remember how hard it was for his own people to oust him after he finally lost in a free election? Sure we remember, the people kept voting for him. He was elected twice, in elections not as corrupt as our Florida fiasco. It was not until the West dumped big bucks into a 'recall' did we suceed in 'bribing' and 'bombing' the Yugo's until they voted him out.
Sorta like when Carville and a lot of our money 'dumped' Niti in favor of Barak in Israel.
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02/19/2002 8:00:20 AM PST
by
duckln
To: Vojvodina
Congratulations on the essay. In your research, have you anywhere run across the number of Serb casualties in WW II? Somewhere I read half the Serb male population died fighting the nazis and they killed about a million Whermacht.
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