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Milosevic: [Clinton] Was Ally of Al Qaeda in Kosovo
Reuters via Yahoo! News ^ | Fri Feb 15, 1:08 PM ET | Andrew Roche

Posted on 02/15/2002 11:11:17 AM PST by Spar

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To: Abbalon
Yes, the reports of mass graves of innocent "ethnic Albanians" are fake. Most of the Albanians reportedly killed by "ethnic cleansing" are still alive today, and all of the Serbs killed by NATO's bombs remain dead.
141 posted on 02/16/2002 10:03:55 AM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: Quila
we have a free press with people who can investigate and report their results in contrary to what the official word is

What does it matter what they "can do" when they won't do it? Eventually the American press did report the errors found in NATO's numbers - but not until well after the bombing had stopped and the damage was done and it was too late to protest. What U.S. war correspondent will advance his career by saying, "Wait a minute! We shouldn't be here - we're on the wrong side - our President and Pentagon officials and NATO spokesmen are LYING"?

142 posted on 02/16/2002 10:08:52 AM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: Quila
You are obviously highly misinformed regarding freedom of the press in Serbia before or after Milosevic. When was the last time you visited Serbia by the way? Speak/read the language do you?

The fact is George Soros funded anti-Milosevic publications like the newspaper Danas and Vreme published freely while Milosevic was in power. These publications not only published anti-Milosevic propaganda, but anti-Serb propaganda. They are still there publishing anti-Serb propaganda now that Milosevic's gone.

In fact, there is actually less freedom of press today in Serbia. There is little criticism of the foreign-sponsored government, and there is no criticism of the West. Which is exactly what NWO Nazis mean by "freedom of the press".

143 posted on 02/16/2002 10:20:45 AM PST by Ichabod Walrus
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To: A.Pole, I_Had_Enough
Only difference was that Czechs gave up without a fight.

Yeah, with allies like the west it was a very tough decision to make. They probably should have fought, but again. If your "western allies" dump you once, why not twice and if beaten the whole nation gets killed.

Good to see some discussion of how the present can come to influence our evaluation, or re-evaluation of our past.

It's hard to be critical of the Czechs for choosing to stay alive instead of making a futile resistance against a much more powerful army. It's true Czechoslovakia, at the time, was no slouch as far as military and industrial capacity goes, but they knew full well fighting alone would only mean heavy casualties on their side. In all likeliehood, the Czechs saw what the Serbs refused to see: their resistance would only benefit the other powers such as the Soviet Union and the United States, and not the people of Czechoslovakia or Serbia, especially those who died in the onslaught.

Perhaps the Czechs could argue they were only being good Americans, because as you might care to recall, German aggression and expansionism did not at all concern the United States at the time, so why should it have bothered any Czech?

If you look at the map of Europe today, there is no longer any state called Czechoslovakia. Instead there is a Czech Republic and Slovakia, exactly as in Hitler's time. The dissolution of the once multi-ethnic state is now seen as "democratic" because it was carried out with the blessing of the United States, like the dissolution of Yugoslavia, another country carved up by German aggression.

The experience of the last 64 years in Europe, has inspired a certain breed of genetic mutant to come to power in the once independent states now preparing themselves for dissolution into a "European Union": what we should call the Blair-Havel. The Blair-Havel is immediately distinguishable by its political behavior; travelling the world, hand raised in salute to Washington, preferably with a champagne glass in hand (although hardly necessary) while vocalizing the most fawning platitudes in tribute to the new Reich. The Blair-Havel watches the Emperor closely, pleading for the opportunity to refill his glass, build up his ego, or merely amuse his press corps by getting down on one's knees and panting like a dog.

144 posted on 02/16/2002 11:14:15 AM PST by Ichabod Walrus
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To: Quila

To be fair to Bush, Clinton and the U.N., throughout history it's always been next to impossible to keep the peace in the Balkans.

Exactly. So why then doesn't Bush say "we don't need this Balkan jerk-off, we have bigger fish to fry elsewhere" and bring all the Americans home -- as Clinton promised from Bosnia after six months?

145 posted on 02/16/2002 11:21:43 AM PST by Zviadist
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To: Abbalon; ValerieUSA
yes Abbalon, faked. Milo is only charged with the deaths of 600 some people in Kosovo (no joke) and our NATO bombs (based on official NATO estimates) killed 500 Yugoslav civilians. In the balance of things, especially taking into account Clinton's alliance with Al-Qaida the greater evil was Clinton's.
148 posted on 02/16/2002 11:49:55 AM PST by Spar
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To: A. Pole
I think that it is you who has been fooled. I was following the events closely and it was clear that Serbian media were much less uniform than the Western ones. Also the small Serbia being in the middle of Europe was not isolated like USA separated by the oceans.

I was in Europe for all of it. My news came mainly from German and British media plus a little CNN. Their pictures of the events were pretty much the same, but often with a more critical slant. How much was the major Serbian media reaching most of the population deviating from the party line?

Serbia had functioning democratic system.

Kind of like how we have a functioning democratic system, where the Republicrat Party has the only chance of winning an election, except they had only one party run by him. But at least our party has two faces, and our sitting presidents don't try to stay in office when voted out by a clear margin, only leaving after massive protests in the streets.

Only after West poured huge number of money into financing subversive groups like Otpor the anti-democratic coup took place.

Subversive only to Milosovic's party. The west giving the opposition parties money was probably the only way they could win a contest rigged against them, and overcome the massive advantage Milosovic had in controlling the mass media.

149 posted on 02/16/2002 12:14:50 PM PST by Quila
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To: Vojvodina
Vojvodina...Is the photo Mihailovich and Chetniks or is this the bastard Tito??
150 posted on 02/16/2002 12:20:03 PM PST by kimosabe31
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To: He Rides A White Horse
Some Muslim "terrorists" in Kosovo, had they not been jailed by Serbia, would now be "going in chains to Guantanamo Bay" from Afghanistan (news - web sites) instead, the white-haired Milosevic insisted.

It is true. Check out the links:

Al Qaeda trained terrorists for Kashmir: Documents (got anti-aircraft rockets from Albanians - more)

Afghans Selling Abandoned Al Qaeda Terrorist Material Including Albanian Passports (My Title)

Journey to the heart of darkness (Aussie al-Qaeda Islam convert fought in Kosovo with Albanian KLA)

Report: Terrorist Notebook Found "written in Turkish" (Turks trained in al-Qaida camp)Meanwhile, two Turks thought to be linked to al-Qaida were captured near the Afghan border by Pakistani border guards, NTV said Saturday. Muhammed Besir Han Vezir, a Pakistani border security official, said the Turks were captured along with four Albanians and a group of Pakistanis, NTV said.

OKLAHOMA BOMBING LINKED TO BIN LADEN (Captured Chemical Notes Say in Bosnian ‘Was used in Oklahoma’)

Al Qaeda's Balkan Links

152 posted on 02/16/2002 2:24:55 PM PST by Spar
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To: Quila; A. Pole
Serbia had functioning democratic system.

Kind of like how we have a functioning democratic system, where the Republicrat Party has the only chance of winning an election, except they had only one party run by him. But at least our party has two faces, and our sitting presidents don't try to stay in office when voted out by a clear margin, only leaving after massive protests in the streets

You mean like what happened with Gore in Florida, Quila???

Only after West poured huge number of money into financing subversive groups like Otpor the anti-democratic coup took place.

Subversive only to Milosovic's party. The west giving the opposition parties money was probably the only way they could win a contest rigged against them, and overcome the massive advantage Milosovic had in controlling the mass media.

Gee Quila, if it's illegal and subversive for the Chinese to contribute in our American political system it seems only fair that the Yugoslavs would feel the same about Clinton money.

153 posted on 02/16/2002 2:40:15 PM PST by Spar
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To: Spar
alt

Just being provocative.

154 posted on 02/16/2002 3:12:50 PM PST by Incorrigible
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To: Quila
Maybe you should first read something about Serbia's media and get informed before you write anything.
155 posted on 02/16/2002 4:09:10 PM PST by Vojvodina
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To: kimosabe31
Geez, I wouldn't post a photo of Tito if someone paid me to do so. It's Drazha. He's in the middle, just next to the guy in the beige-white British (U.S.?) coat.
156 posted on 02/16/2002 4:18:00 PM PST by Vojvodina
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To: Black Jade
Got any thoughts on this?
157 posted on 02/16/2002 4:23:42 PM PST by mafree
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To: jdhmichigan
Fortunately, DNC/Clinton mafia/organized crime enterprise will not be able to eliminate Slobo in his jail cell, since Slobo is not in a US jail.
158 posted on 02/16/2002 4:30:10 PM PST by stoic
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To: Incorrigible
The cartoon shows how silly it is to compare Milosevic next to Stalin and Hitler.
159 posted on 02/16/2002 9:21:01 PM PST by Spar
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To: Spar
Agreed... but I couldn't help myself!

BTW, I should change my Balkans bump list from an alias that used to start with "P" to "Spar" right?

160 posted on 02/16/2002 9:25:11 PM PST by Incorrigible
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