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House Passes Campaign Finance Bill
CNSNews.com ^ | 2/14/02 | Susan Jones

Posted on 02/14/2002 1:52:44 AM PST by kattracks

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To: kattracks
I just emailed my congress critter (the vermin). Don't let up on the letters and calls even though it passed. There's still the conference report to vote on. Here's a copy of the note I just fired off:

Dear Representative Inslee,

I’m writing to express my great dismay and disappointment in finding 
that you voted for the Shays-Meehan bill.  It's an assault on the First 
Amendment of the highest order.  No matter how you stretch the Constitution, 
it can never be construed to allow the muzzling of Americans about the 
voting records of their elected officials through letters, publications and
the media.  If the Sierra Club wants to tell me about legislation that you 
support or have voted for, even the week of an election, they have the right 
to present their message and I have a right to know and hear about it, even 
if I dissagree.  The same is true concerning the AARP, the NRA, my local PTA, 
or any other group or person.  Shays-Meehan limits the free expression of 
political thought, exactly the kind of speech the Framers intended to protect.  

King George arrested, as dissenters, people for pamphleteering about the 
abuses of the crown in order to protect his power.  How is this bill any 
different?  

This can not stand.  

I've never been very politically active, but I promise that I'm going to be 
knocking on a lot of doors come this election season, telling people about 
how you voted and why it is so wrong.  

Respectfully,
Chris Edstrom

181 posted on 02/14/2002 8:20:19 AM PST by cleancutguy
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To: JohnHuang2, all
What people don't understand (some of them) is that the reason the RATS and the REPUBLICRATS voted for this bill is that THEIR SUPPORTERS - THE PROABORTS - PROGUNGRABBING - PRO GLOBALIST - PRO ENVIRONUTS will be allowed to be all over the media outlets - NBCABCCBSCNN, Wash Post, NY Times, LA Times, Boston Globe, NPR, and Cspan.

They will have no opposition because issue ads will not be able to be run by groups who could make clear the lies that are being perpetrated.

THE RATS CONTROL EVERY SINGLE MAJOR MEDIA OUTLET IN THIS COUNTRY. EVen Fox - now with Whoraldo and Great on.

On the non cable "news" shows - and on programs such as 60 minutes whose pro-Clinton defense piece was aired right before the 92 election - RAT BASTARDS WILL BE ABLE TO GET ON THERE AND GET THEIR MESSAGE ACROSS WITH ZERO OPPOSITION AND INFORMATION ALLOWED BY THE GROUPS WHO ARE SUPPORTED BY MR. AND MRS. AVERAGE AMERICAN!

What this also means is that Mr. and Mrs. AVerage American who support the NRA, for instance, will find out that the NRA is not very effective any longer fighting for their pro-2nd amendment rights and will stop supporting the NRA.

This piece of legislation is the worst to come before the Congress since HIllary care.

IN fact, I predict, it will allow HIllarycare to be put into place.

Further, it proves to the Clinton led Rat Party that they have the Republicrats in the palm of their hands and therefore it paves the way for further such "victories" for those who want to destroy us.

I am totally disgusted that the Republican party HEAD - our President - cannot defeat the Rats in his own party - and now is being forced to veto this legislation (something I want him to do with all my might) or to let it go and suffer the consequences.

Again, my party supports these liberal traitors. They have just killed my country and I refuse to be a party to their atrocity. If President Bush has the internal strength and character that I think he does, HE MUST veto this bill no matter what else happens. If he does not - and I say this with all the seriousness I possess - it is OVER for this nation. There will be no more chance to take it back......watch and see.

182 posted on 02/14/2002 8:24:01 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: cleancutguy
Inslee voted FOR it,,,,,"the horror"
183 posted on 02/14/2002 8:24:19 AM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: concerned about politics
Where does the DNC get all their money? If unions can't give, special interest groups can't give, businesses can't give....where will they get THEIR money?

Unions are exempted from the advertising restrictions, so they don't need to give their soft money directly. They can run all the adds they want, but conservative groups can't do either.
184 posted on 02/14/2002 8:25:50 AM PST by cleancutguy
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To: cleancutguy
exactly, the gop is basically giving liberals political power, polital seats, and the lib media influence becoming more powerful will guarantee the RINOs are the only gop left.
185 posted on 02/14/2002 8:32:50 AM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: cleancutguy
Exactly, the gop is basically giving liberals political power, polital seats, and the lib media influence becoming more powerful will guarantee that RINOs are the only gop left.
186 posted on 02/14/2002 8:33:22 AM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: hchutch
It won't matter. The DNC will get the 60 days of press coverage from the media.

Yes, and that is important, and that's where we really have a fight..
BUT, the DNC base is broke. Without left wing organizations and unions, the democrat individual is screwed.
It's the Republican base that's employed, and can give.

In NY, Hillarey ran on soft money from out of state. NY voters were giving to Lazio.
She accused Lazio of big business soft money, so Lazio asked her to sign a soft money ban to make it fair. She refused to sign.
Had it not been for soft money from out of state, Hillary would have been broke. The actual Republican voters were giving to Lazio, and the democrat base was not giving to Hillary.

If organization are taken out of the picture, and it's up to the voters to support their canidates, we win, The democrat base consists of losers who don't want to be employed..

187 posted on 02/14/2002 8:33:27 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: kattracks
Thanks for the list of yea's and noe's. I just heard this on the radio and my first instinct was to check my own representative's vote so figured it would probably be on FR. Of course, Bill Thomas voted noe, thankfully.

Methinks the dems will rue this day. Doesn't the president have to sign this to make it law? Boy, Rush is HOT!

188 posted on 02/14/2002 8:34:06 AM PST by blackbart1
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To: RFP
Hayworth is great; so is Matt Salmon, but the only one who could beat McCain is Arapio. For some reason Arizonans almost equate MC with Goldwater, which could not be further from the truth.

Maybe this discussion should not be if the man is dying.

189 posted on 02/14/2002 8:34:08 AM PST by Angelique
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To: kattracks
Thanks for the list of yea's and noe's. I just heard this on the radio and my first instinct was to check my own representative's vote so figured it would probably be on FR. Of course, Bill Thomas voted noe, thankfully.

Methinks the dems will rue this day. Doesn't the president have to sign this to make it law? Boy, Rush is HOT!

190 posted on 02/14/2002 8:34:33 AM PST by blackbart1
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To: kattracks
Think I read the list wrong...Bill Thomas voted Aye! I can't believe this. He won't get my vote unless I am reading this wrong.
191 posted on 02/14/2002 8:39:55 AM PST by blackbart1
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To: concerned about politics
Yes, but the Democrats have no intention of abiding by any new laws or rules. They will cheat. Always have.
192 posted on 02/14/2002 8:40:44 AM PST by mwl1
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To: Clarity
You may be right but if this passes the Supreme Court the same rules will apply to the dems. My only concern is that won't the media have a free reign as well as the unions? Perhaps I am mistaken about the unions but don't think so. The media will have plenty to say just by labeling the ad as a review or interview.
193 posted on 02/14/2002 8:44:09 AM PST by blackbart1
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To: rbmillerjr
And I'm a realist who believes in the 2 party system (or at least realistically sees the folly of smaller fringe parties - they are really interest groups)But this is a fundamental issue for me and many others. It appears the gop thinks it can slip it in why the country is preoccupied.

This *is* a fundamental issue and I too beleive in the two party system but you paint the GOP with too much of a broad brush. There is nothing different -- pro or con --about the Republican compaired to other parties except that it is the party that contains the most people that stand for freedom. That is why me must work in the primaries to remove those 41 R's who voted for this and we must work in the general elections to support the rest of them.

Hey G.W., you need to veto this or I'll put him in the same bad GOP bin as the other 41 R's.

194 posted on 02/14/2002 9:03:17 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: blackbart1
I'm from CT. This guy Simmons(R) just squeaked himself into office this past election, very close. He would never had gotten elected if this law was in effect.

I cannot believe how he voted Yes and turned his back on all conservatives. CT is known for it's RINOs, look at Rowland, our governor.

195 posted on 02/14/2002 9:04:09 AM PST by George from New England
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
What people don't understand (some of them) is that the reason the RATS and the REPUBLICRATS voted for this bill is that THEIR SUPPORTERS - THE PROABORTS - PROGUNGRABBING - PRO GLOBALIST - PRO ENVIRONUTS will be allowed to be all over the media outlets - NBCABCCBSCNN, Wash Post, NY Times, LA Times, Boston Globe, NPR, and Cspan.

How true! The Biased Left Wing Media has won a huge victory here. It is up to Dubya to slay this evil dragon before it consumes the last of American Values. I have faith that President Bush will do the right thing and veto this attempt to enable the Biased Left Wing Media to choose our politicians. But shouldn’t we start a petition or something to let him know we are out here and opposed to this act of tyranny?

196 posted on 02/14/2002 9:09:13 AM PST by kapn kuek
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To: blackbart1
My only concern is that won't the media have a free reign as well as the unions?

I think you mean free rein(not reign of freedom).

197 posted on 02/14/2002 9:10:38 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: kapn kuek
How true! The Biased Left Wing Media has won a huge victory here. It is up to Dubya to slay this evil dragon before it consumes the last of American Values. I have faith that President Bush will do the right thing and veto this attempt to enable the Biased Left Wing Media to choose our politicians. But shouldn’t we start a petition or something to let him know we are out here and opposed to this act of tyranny?

Bump!

198 posted on 02/14/2002 9:13:21 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: concerned about politics
Where does the DNC get all their money? If unions can't give, special interest groups can't give, businesses can't give....where will they get THEIR money?
The DemonRATs don't have to pay for access to NBCCBSABCCNNPMSNBCTheNewYorkTimesWashingtonPostLosAngelesTimesYourLocalTVStationAndPaper OR the union trade propaganda sheet. What McShame-Slimeroad and Shames-Noman do is block OUR access to the broadcast portion of the aforementioned media outlets (and if they could have written it so that the union trade propaganda sheet is somehow media, they would have banned our access to the print media as well).
199 posted on 02/14/2002 9:20:46 AM PST by steveegg
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To: kapn kuek
1-202-456-1414, 1-202-456-5594 - phone numbers to the White House. Call.
200 posted on 02/14/2002 9:22:27 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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