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Missing ENRON Executives
Forbes.com ^ | 11 Jan. '02 | Forbes

Posted on 01/15/2002 5:10:53 AM PST by rdavis84

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To: deport; Independentmind; thinden
"What's your therory as to who and where they are? Why are they missing, any ideas?"

My theory is that they're likely Ghost Payroll. Or a variation of that like the one used in some WW era transactions where the actual person whose name/I.D. is used doesn't know about it. You can move a LOT of money that way.

201 posted on 02/15/2002 7:36:28 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84
I suspect you are correct in that they are non participating employees. I suspect with a lot of the overseas subsideraries there were a lot of local people used as incorparting employees/executives to meet or buy acceptance from the local government. Thus many were friends of a government offical that was listed as an executive but never had the responsiblility... Who knows where they are today or if they even exist... At the rate they spent money a few thousand dollars to one of these phantom executives is nothing.. All just speculation on my part of course.
202 posted on 02/15/2002 7:44:10 AM PST by deport
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To: independentmind
Go back to the link at the start of this thread, it's "The Enron Chainsaw Massacre" ---

"These unanswered questions are part of a pattern with Enron. No one really knows how it got so rich, or what it was doing with the many private partnerships managed by its executives. No one knows what prompted former Chief Executive Jeffrey Skilling to quit the company in August 2001. Indeed, at a bankruptcy court hearing earlier this week, it was revealed that Enron does not know the location of 79 of its top executives or even if they still work for the company."

I still contend this was a Spook Op.

203 posted on 02/15/2002 7:52:33 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84
I dunno. For now, I'm content to believe it is a massive case of fraud. Every single check that the market has to prevent such a case failed. How come?

CONFLICTS OF INTEREST.

(That is not to exclude the possibility that some with intelligence connections had their hands in the pot.)

204 posted on 02/15/2002 7:57:16 AM PST by independentmind
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To: independentmind
A little more ---

From a Feb. 19, 1995 New York Times article titled, "How Washington Inc. Makes a Sale"

From that Washington war room, the negotiators for the Enron Corporation, the lead bidder in the American consortium, have been shadowed and assisted by a startling array of Government agencies. In a carefully-planned assault, the State and Energy Departments pressed the firms' case. The American ambassador to India, Frank G. Wisner, constantly cajoled Indian officials. The Secretary of Energy, Hazel O'Leary, brought in delegations of other executives -- including some last week -- to make the point that more American investment is in the wings if the conditions are right.

To sweeten the pot, the Export-Import Bank of the United States and the Overseas Private Investment Corporation put together $400 million in financing. And working just behind the scenes, as it often does these days, was the Central Intelligence Agency, assessing the risks of the project and scoping out the the competitive strategies of Britain and other countries that want a big chunk of the Indian market."

 

And more AIG --- FROM ----   http://209.157.64.200/focus/fr/619989/posts

Frank Wisner, former Ambassador to India, currently representing the American International Group Inc (AIG), one of the largest insurance companies in the US. Also on the Council's board is Joseph W. Sutton of Enron, a Houston-based natural gas giant whose power projects in India have come under attack from environmental and community groups. Others on the board include Peter Howell of banking conglomerate Citigroup, Dinesh Keskar of Boeing India, Boyd Montgomery of UNOCAL and Charles Saris of Pfizer pharmaceuticals, to name a few.

The large corporate delegation accompanying Clinton includes former ambassador to India Frank Wisner, Lou Gestner, IBM's Chairman, Arun Netraveli, President of Bell Laboratories/Lucent Technologies, John Smith, CEO of General Motors, Kenneth Lay, Chairman and CEO of Enron and General Electric's CEO John Welch."

"Frank Wisner, Jr. was a big catch for Enron Corporation. His lineage is impeccable, since his father, Frank Wisner Sr., was a senior CIA official (from 1947 until his suicide in 1965) who was involved in the overthrow of Arbenz of Guatemala (1954) and Mossadeq of Iran (1953). Wisner Junior was well-known in the CIA and he worked as Under Secretary of Defense for Policy and Under Secretary of State for International Security Affairs; his current boss, Kenneth Lay, Chief Executive Officer of Enron Corporation, also worked for the Pentagon during the US war in Vietnam. With "economic espionage" as a task for the CIA (see PD, 12 October 1997), there is little doubt that Wisner used this instrument during his long-tenure as Ambassador in Asian nations. A Wisner staffer told InterPress Services this year that 'if anybody asked the CIA to help promote US business in India, it was probably Frank'."

205 posted on 02/21/2002 6:09:56 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84
Some other FReepers on on the trail of O'Leary. Take a look at some of the posts by Dog and others.
206 posted on 02/22/2002 4:36:06 AM PST by independentmind
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To: independentmind
"Frank Wisner, Jr. was a big catch for Enron Corporation. His lineage is impeccable, since his father, Frank Wisner Sr., was a senior CIA official (from 1947 until his suicide in 1965) who was involved in the overthrow of Arbenz of Guatemala (1954) and Mossadeq of Iran (1953). Wisner Junior was well-known in the CIA and he worked as Under Secretary of Defense for Policy and Under Secretary of State for International Security Affairs; his current boss, Kenneth Lay, Chief Executive Officer of Enron Corporation, also worked for the Pentagon during the US war in Vietnam. With "economic espionage" as a task for the CIA (see PD, 12 October 1997), there is little doubt that Wisner used this instrument during his long-tenure as Ambassador in Asian nations. A Wisner staffer told InterPress Services this year that 'if anybody asked the CIA to help promote US business in India, it was probably Frank'."

"There have been at least 20 CIA agents on the payroll of Enron for the last eight years," a source familiar with several ongoing Enrongate probes told the tabloid. Using super-secret spy technology like Echelon, the agency was "able to provide detailed information on bids made by foreign companies on projects of interest to Enron.

"Using the CIA for economic intelligence began with President Bush Sr. and then exploded under President Clinton, when even the Commerce Department was infiltrated with CIA agents," the Washington insider told NE." From ----- CIA and Enron

207 posted on 02/28/2002 6:36:21 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: Mancini; Fred Mertz; Thinden
Seen these guys yet?
208 posted on 03/14/2002 6:23:45 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: Mancini; Fred Mertz; Thinden
I just really believe youse guys aren't LOOKING for these guys!

Maybe if we had some Names, or pictures, yeah... that might help.

209 posted on 04/18/2002 3:35:26 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84
I'm heading to DC tomorrow for the Patriots Rally. I'm sure every third person will be a gummint type around the city. I'll keep my eyes peeled for these missing executives.
210 posted on 04/18/2002 8:42:26 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
"I'll keep my eyes peeled for these missing executives."

Sounds Good! BTW, I THINK that most of them will be wearing Sunglasses. Even if it's raining.

211 posted on 04/19/2002 3:13:17 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: Mancini; Fred Mertz; Thinden
I think I spotted a group of these guys this week. Kind of a rowdy bunch, and definitely had that Spook Look. Had a Pair of Vicious Attack Dogs with them.
213 posted on 05/09/2002 6:38:52 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84; Fred Mertz; mancini;
did you hear the one about the guys who had the aluminum foil duct tape?

makes great hats. super reception even in remote rural areas, plus won't blow off your head in a hurricane.

214 posted on 05/09/2002 9:01:14 AM PDT by thinden
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To: thinden
THAT WAS THEM !! You saw them too?
215 posted on 05/09/2002 9:18:36 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84;thinden
Ah, that makes Red Green so happy!
216 posted on 05/09/2002 9:53:31 AM PDT by mancini
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To: mancini; thinden
I believe it must be True --- Duct Tape is holding Half of the World together.

And our Government is holding the other half together.

We're in Bad Shape.

Put a couple more wraps around my haid!

217 posted on 05/09/2002 10:11:58 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84
Duct Tape is holding Half of the World together.

I actually had the driver of a car I was riding in pull over because I saw a roll of duct tape in the road.
It was raining at the time, but, hey, it was like finding buried treasure and I had to have it!

And our Government is holding the other half together.

Oh well, half is better than nothing, I guess. Duct tape can ALWAYS be counted upon.

218 posted on 05/09/2002 10:34:48 AM PDT by mancini
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To: mancini
I had to have it!

glad to see you've got your priorities straight!

red & green brand? I'll have to try that sometime.

219 posted on 05/09/2002 11:15:47 AM PDT by thinden
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To: rdavis84; mancini
...most of them will be wearing Sunglasses

yes, I think I saw them too.

at first I thought their sunglasses had mirror lenses, then I realized they had um covered with that new aluminum duct tape.

(it looked kinda neat cause it matched their hats)

220 posted on 05/09/2002 11:21:04 AM PDT by thinden
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