Public Schools Embrace Islam (Mandatory Class in California)

Assist News Service ^ | January 9, 2002 | Reverend Austin Miles

[browardchad]

"Teaching them what the world is like" -- that's the job of parents. Kids don't need courses in comparative religions to have a well-rounded education. That course is usually a college elective, and even then, some kids aren't mature enough to handle it.

This really isn't about a well-rounded education -- it's about the deliberate promotion of a pseudo-religion that has as it aim the destruction of the secular government and the imposition of despotic Islamic rule. It's time to stop tolerating yourself to death, gfactor.

[cricket]

". . . don't think the aim is to teach religions so that students can go off and pick their own -- if anything forcing kids to do something may turn them off of it. But if religions are to be taught, and since they are such a part of human experience that they OUGHT to be taught, they should certainly teach them all. No the job of public education is not to give kids a multiple choice question in picking a religion, but it is to educate -- in a well rounded manner -- children in what the world is like. ergo, teach them all religions. i can see some who would follow an immersion approach. others just read textbooks. depends on the teacher/curriculum i guess."

Yes, children often feel compelled to do precisely the opposite of what is expected of them; all the more reason NOT to introduce them to multiple religions when they are adolescents. . .much less by public education requirments. . .and sorry, it is just not the job of public education to initiate religion for any reason, nor to concern itself with the 'whole' of human experience. . .

These stuents can get a better education with an introduction to Aristotle and Plato. . .religion needs to stay in the Churches of THEIR choice/their parents. . .and/or until they are of the age to make their own spiritual choices. . .and religion becomes their own education 'elective'.

[willyone]

Not likely since Hedgecock comes on at three pm Pacific time. This was also posted early this morning.

[willyone]

Calm down everyone. Did our president not say that Islam is a religion of peace, love and understanding. Get with the anti Christian, multi cultural agenda already. Stop being so insensitive. Our diversity is our strength. As long as it is anti American.

[Sueann]

Not only do they hold classes, they set aside rooms for the students to pray in - however, Christian students are FORBIDDEN to pray - this is outrageous.

[AMMON-CENTRIST]

Boy, Killah Kali is one strange place.

[markn]

At this rate.. we will be having our heads chopped off for eating pork in 15 or 20 years.

Though there is a definate trend to give ANY religion more coverage in schools than Christianity, there seems to be an emphasis on Islam recently (over Buddism, etc).

[nomad]

Give them hell!

[markn]

I haven't seen it, but I heard this was on WorldNetDaily too.

I have no problem at all with them teaching short sessions about the major beleifs and figures of major religions, but to do ROLE PLAY?? Its about time that parents stuck up for these things. I bet the amount of parents opposed to these shananagins would outnumber the ones that didn't at least 3 to 1, depending on what area you live in.

[Ghostly]

Can you imagine how the muslim community would react if public school children had to take a 3 week crash course in Judiasm, memorize several prayers, recite them each morning and have a mock bar mitzva????

[ASOC]

Good point lucy1

When I went to hi school (long after the dinosaurs were gone BTW) no religion was studied. History, culture - yes, religion - no

After I joined the military I read the bible cover to cover, and the koran, worked thru parts of the torah and even some on the Eastern belief system.

Sun Tzu had it right - you must understand where folks are coming from if you wish to come out on top.

Hoo-ah

[supercat]

This is even more over-the-top than the Onion's Harry Potter article. Please tell me this is all some satire piece, please...

[Dimensio]

I''m not about to agree with the instruction involved but...

Not allowed to wear a cross or speak the name of Jesus? Sounds like either the school is overstepping its authority amongst the students -- because a number of court decisions have affirmed the rights of students to express their religious beliefs even in school -- or the person who wrote the article is making things up to inflame emotions.

[Joe Boucher]

is it a wonder that people realish the bad things that happen to Calif. What a bunch of dumbasses there. What ever happened to the earthquake that was supposed to sink Calif into the sea?

[John Jorsett]

Interesting. Simultaneously with your post, Hedgecock (KOGO, AM600, San Diego) was doing an entire hour on the subject. He had kids calling in confirming some of the allegations.

[gfactor]

History, culture - yes, religion - no

what kind of history or culture can you study without studying religion? that sounds like you only get the a-religious view of cultures and history don't you?

[gfactor]

Everything's okay with you, right?

certainly not. not everything is ok with the world either, and schools that teach about the world are going to teach about that too. If you want to hide certain things from kids, like the religious beliefs of the largest religion in the world (not that gives it any legitemacy, but gives it impact), then i would say you are the one with your head stuck somewher where the sun don't shine.

[gfactor]

i think you're missing the point of what i mean by "teaching religions". its to introduce people to other beliefs -- beliefs which motivate people all over the world. plato or aristotle will help them understand western society, but then they should also learn about the other few billion people in the world. its all part of an education -- knowing the world around you.

[demkicker]

Get a grip. Schools exist and are charged with teaching English, math, science, history and geography as fundamental subjects. The arts are offered as electives.

Never mind that the public schools have failed miserably with their charge, but even you should realize that religion is only allowed to be taught in private schools where the parents approve of the cirriculum.

You need to pull your head out of where the sun don't shine!

[cricket]

". . .its all part of an education -- knowing the world around you."

. . .world is a big place and a lifetime isn't long enough to 'know it'. . .that said, seventh graders do not need to know the religions of the world - as older students, fine. . . just not mandatory. . .

. . .appreciate your viewpoint ie the cultivation of 'religious tolerance' and understanding. . . just disagree with your premises and your conclusions.