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Hepatitis shots urged for newborns { DON'T}
AP ^ | January 7, 2002 | AP

Posted on 01/07/2002 1:15:35 PM PST by expose

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:50:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: bonesmccoy
We are correctly diagnosing and treating patients

Oh really, then why are one day old babys treated for hepatitus-b without a diagnosis of the mother?

Answer: because paid LIARS buy off pols to force vaccines on them regardless of the lives destroyed in their wake.

That's the action of a radical, liberal and a green

Your actions show you lack common sense and your medical opinions are being spoon fed to you by Jocelyn Elders.

241 posted on 03/04/2002 3:42:51 PM PST by sc01
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To: expose
they say we are on the verge of a new epidemic. they say we are going to have a hepatitis epidemic really soon. maybe this is why they are pushing hepatitis shots.
242 posted on 03/04/2002 3:46:45 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Harrison Bergeron
I work at the Hospital(lab tech) I've had my shots its part of the job requirement. It makes me feel pretty damn safe when working on Hepatitis patients. Now if they can only invent a vaccine for aids. My kids have also had their shots with no side effects at all.
243 posted on 03/04/2002 3:55:52 PM PST by linn37
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To: sc01
"Perhaps not, but there is no other plausible explanantion for autism at this time."

Uh huh. With reasoning like that, you may as well blame autism on sunspot cycles.

244 posted on 03/04/2002 6:02:44 PM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Harrison Bergeron
I'm not against vaccines. I agree with you that folks should take a look around the world to see what happens when kids are vaccinated. It's easy for a parent not to vaccinate here, since there is virtually NO risk, because other parents have THEIR kids vaccinated!

The problem is that we are being asked to vaccinate kids with vaccines that carry risk when the potential for benefit is low. My kids are NOT at risk for Hep B. Furthermore, if I had to vaccinate again, I would vaccinate on my OWN timetable, when my babies were older and stronger.

245 posted on 03/04/2002 6:12:45 PM PST by joathome
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To: joathome
You are incorrect regarding lifetime exposure risks against Hepatitis B. The virus can be transmitted maternally to the fetus/baby upon delivery. If the vaccine is given close to birth, there is a protective effect from the vaccine (even if the HepB wasn't diagnosed until later in the baby's life). So, that's why some physicians use the vaccine in the hospital.
246 posted on 03/04/2002 8:33:45 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: bonesmccoy
And that's why pregnant women are tested repeatedly. An unborn child whose mother's lifestyle is not at risk, and who is tested two or three times over the course of her pregnancy, is not at risk, either.

Look, I AM in favor of vaccines. All of my children took and received their vaccines with nothing but a little achiness and fever for some of them. I also know a baby who was hospitalized and almost died from a vaccine. His mother and one of the doctors who attended him believes that had he been older and stronger he wouldn't have almost died. Of course, his pediatritian would never admit that. No one knows, for sure. I just know that I wouldn't take that chance with my baby if I were pregnant. I know what MY risks for hep are.

247 posted on 03/05/2002 4:40:10 AM PST by joathome
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To: joathome, TomB
Publishing a "I know a ... " story here does not constitute a professional case report through the Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System. VAERS has operated for years. It is the surveillance system used for adverse vaccine events. Your report does not include the vaccine, manufacturer, lot number, method of administration, or exact report of the adverse effect. While perhaps it may not be without merit, at this point it is certainly without information.

Vaccine decisions are not made by hearsay.

The vaccination protocol of the United States is created with input from various governmental agencies and non-profit organizations in healthcare. While I may share your cynicism, I am not so foolish to share your fear.

Vaccinations have saved millions. Those on this board who are so militant and foolish in their FEAR of a vaccine have not watched children with contracted diseases DIE of the DISEASE.

248 posted on 03/05/2002 6:52:09 AM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: Harrison Bergeron
Uh huh. With reasoning like that, you may as well blame autism on sunspot cycles.

I blame it on vaccines - read post 233.. if you have nothing else relavent to add then STFU!

BTW I blame hep-b outbreaks on queer sissies named Harrison, not mothers and their children.

249 posted on 03/05/2002 1:24:34 PM PST by sc01
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To: bonesmccoy
"Vaccinations have saved millions. Those on this board who are so militant and foolish in their FEAR of a vaccine have not watched children with contracted diseases DIE of the DISEASE."

I am not in fear of a vaccine. I just have a brain, and choose to use it. I don't need someone in Washington who accesses risks for general populations, to determine the risk of hep for my child. It's called parental rights. Or don't you believe in them?

(And if you'll recall, I'm the one who made the remark that it's easy for the "no vaccines" crowd not to vaccinate, when other parents ARE vaccinating their children, thereby lowering the risk to their children. I absolutely believe in vaccinations, in general. I just believe that I, as a parent, know what's best for children. FYI, I am adopting two orphans from overseas, and while I want to vaccinate them fairly soon, I don't intend to do so until they have been home a few weeks, and are stronger and healthier. I will keep them home until then. I have made the determination that this will carry the least risk for my children.)

250 posted on 03/05/2002 4:39:13 PM PST by joathome
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To: bonesmccoy
that's assess, not access :)
251 posted on 03/05/2002 4:40:54 PM PST by joathome
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To: joathome
1. I am as strong a supporter of parental rights as you will ever find in our part of the community.

2. It is unwise for people to keep their children UNimmunized around you. 3. The fact you are bringing an UNimmunized child into our nation from a foreign land and that YOU have chosen to KEEP that newly immigrated child UNimmunized is disturbing. The reality is that the child (if exposed to a contagious disease in the last few weeks prior to arrival) could pose an infectious risk on all the babies around him/her.

I strongly encourage you to immunize the child PRIOR to departing the foreign nation.

252 posted on 03/05/2002 10:31:05 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: bonesmccoy
No one that I've spoken to has had their kids immunized overseas. The vaccines are not reliable. People have been told their kids are vaccinated, but blood work back home "sometimes" shows they haven't. Maybe my kids will be some of the lucky ones.

I don't intend for them to go without for months. Just three or four weeks, and we WILL stay home. Since we're all vaccinated, we WILL be ok. Thanks for your concern. I've thought a lot about this, and this is what I've decided to do.

253 posted on 03/06/2002 4:11:55 AM PST by joathome
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To: joathome
It depends on the nation of origin. The reliability of vaccines in some areas is poor (as you testify). However, in other regions and nations, the vaccination against major communicable diseases would be prudent PRIOR TO arrival in the United States. Many children have such programs completed prior to arrival in the USA.
254 posted on 03/06/2002 5:37:07 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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