US fears Iraq radar can see stealth plane

telegraph uk ^ | 1/6/01

[OKCSubmariner]

For replies #47 and #65:

Yep, they are the same ones who not only sold out to China but sold out to Iraq before the Ghulf War.

Isn't it interesting that now China is a big backer of Iraq and BIn Laden terrorists and ALQaeda? China built the fiber optic communications connecting the radar installations in Iraq that can shoot at our stealth fighters and bombers. Maybe the new radar came from CHina too?

[OKCSubmariner]

Please see reply #101.

[LasVegasMac]

your description of HELL is in the sub-sonic region.

Not real quick in today's combat arena.

S - L - O - W LVM

[quietolong]

Too much to coment on So I will tell every one to read the book Skunk Works Link to what I said on an other thread. And some more links.

Link to thread post 61

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[LasVegasMac]

Obviously, you have not been in the local area for awhile.

If you need a ticket for the clue bus, then go get one. Otherwise quit speculating on things that you know absolutely nothing about.

Want to guess where the Predator operates from?

Shut up!

LVM

[LasVegasMac]

Your point is - what?

Other posts on this thread debate the fact that the F-117 really is a fighter. How silly.

I would call it a precesion delivery platform.

What would you call it?

LVM

[LasVegasMac]

Some of my sources have indicated the F-117 can carry Sidewinder air-to-air missiles....

Giggle.

Please invite your "sources" to visit Nellis AFB, NV. Go to Freedom Park. Every aircraft ever based at Nellis (maybe) is on static display. You can walk underneath an F-117.

Did your "sources" consider the fact the the AIM-9 would have to be carried in the bomb bay. Can't be carried on the outside. True, I'm sure the AF could mod the thing to do that.

But why?

Ask your "sources" if they have ever heard of the concept long range - extremely long range - air to air missles. We do have those in inventory, ya know.

LVM

[LasVegasMac]

Exactly. It was not that long ago I read about the Brit's having a system to defeat "stealth" technology.

Using cell phone band transmissions!

LVM

[Buckeroo]

"your description of HELL is in the sub-sonic region." -- LasVegasMac

Yeah. No one seems to understand the HELL our nation is undergoing. It is a repeat of history.

[patriciaruth]

didn't the pentagon take a direct hit from a supremely slow and un-stealthy large airliner this year?

Last year. Time flies when you're having fun.

[KirklandJunction]

My point is in context with another writer, not you. #63.

I'd call the 117 a now obsolete specialized aircraft.

"Precesion" (sic) wasn't precise.
Either you meant precession as in preceding, or perhaps precision as in precise. Doesn't matter to me. I don't care.

[freefly]

Some very interesting info on this thread.
It's not all that impressive if this extremely expensive aircraft is only cost-effective against 3rd world countries.

(Although I doubt it is possible to prevent even low-end countermeasures from getting one every once in awhile,
-given luck and correct circumstances.
Almost nothing is 100%.)

[zog]

--yes, last year, my mistake, sorry.

[mindprism.com]

Is this the type of "radar" that uses the motion of ferrous metals through the earths magnetic field to detect resultant fluxuations?

It would also seem that sensative infra-red cameras would be a big hurdle for stealth technology to overcome, but what do I know.

Sometimes I suspect the defense industry of selling elixors.

[nomad]

Another reason to work the bugs out of our armed recon drones.

[rmvh]

Re your # 18

One must remember an enormous segment if no the bulk of the French people sided with Germany at the beginning of WWII... forming the Vichey pro-Hitler government.

With the singular exception of the Free French, and their leader Charles DeGaulle who fled to England, the French of that era were no friends of America.

And it should come as no surprise that the French of today, in general, are no different. For the most part they absolutely hate America and are jealous of our freedoms and way of life..... Yes, there are many exceptions....The French people in the countryside are generally friendly and do not share the devious perversity of their counterparts in urban, French society.

For the French, anything is for sale....Honor, country, and friends. These people aren't refered to as a "nation of shopkeeprs" for no reason.

[USNBandit]

That's why the Russians are going to SELL Sukhoi fighters by the shiploads - while we rely on now obsolete (and expensive) slower F22 Speed is not the only thing that makes a fighter. Yes, the F-22 is expensive, but it will super cruise, and the weapons system will waste any russian piece of fod out there. The average Sukoi/Mig up close looks like it was put together by a high school shop class. They are way behind on the avionics side despite what their advertising says.

[USNBandit]

The whole F-117 being a tactical bomber, but referred to as a fighter is a hold over from the SALT treaties. Both sides were limited on the number of bombers they were allowed to have.