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Jim Robinson & FR accused of censorship
WhatReallyHappened.com ^ | 4 January 2002 | WRH.com goobers

Posted on 01/04/2002 10:01:12 PM PST by Vigilant1

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To: piasa
A well presented argument. Thanks for taking the time to give it.
421 posted on 01/06/2002 3:53:01 PM PST by rightofrush
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
>> If you want the freedom to cuss people, attack them personally, and post factually incorrect articles that attack conservatism, then you're at the wrong website. <<

I want what conservatives have long told the PC left that they want -- free and open debate.

I've long opposed the PC Left, am a registered Republican (and card-carrying Libertarian), and have never voted Dem, because I imagined that conservatives were sincere in their stated desire for free speech.

Was I mistaken? Were such "conservatives" lying? Has FR became a forum with "sensitivity" over free speech?

>> If you want the freedom to post factually incorrect articles that attack conservatism, then you're at the wrong website. <<

I WOULD like EVERYONE to have the freedom to post whatever articles they like, and have the freedom to MAKE UP MY OWN MIND as to whether the article is factual or not.

If you prefer a place where Big Brother screens "factually incorrect" articles from your sensitive eyes, then perhaps I am in the wrong place. I seek a true conservative place -- not a PC conservative place.

Worth repeating: I want to read everything and MAKE UP MY OWN MIND what's true or not -- I don't want or need others to decide for me. True conservatives THINK FOR THEMSELVES.

422 posted on 01/06/2002 8:35:08 PM PST by Commie Basher
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To: Commie Basher
It's time for you to take it on down the road. Sounds like Yahoo! and DU are more your style. This is Jim's website, not some public-owned redlight district. You don't own this website. Therefore, you have no right to dictate the rules. When you're in somebody else's house, you respect their wishes. If they don't want you bringing over Hustler magazine and swearing in front of the kids, then you don't do it or you're kicked out.

If anything, you should draft a letter to Jim Robinson instead of moaning on some thread started by that fruitcake Rivero. Or better yet, why don't you go start your own website since you know better than JR how to run one?

423 posted on 01/06/2002 9:08:16 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
>> you have no right to dictate the rules. <<

I'm not dictating anything. I'm expressing an opinion. I thought we were allowed to do that in FREE Republic.

Do you prefer the old Soviet Union, where the ballots contained only one candidate per office? Do you prefer a forum where only one approved opinion can be posted?

Why are some Freepers so FRIGHTENED and HOSTILE to any political deviation?

>> When you're in somebody else's house, you respect their wishes. If they don't want you bringing over Hustler magazine and swearing in front of the kids. <<

Dangerous precedent. The PC Left owns academia, the major media, and quite a few other pretty big houses. The day will come when you'll be expected to respect their wishes, and not swear "insensitive" remarks in front of their children (or themselves).

I'm also not swearing.

FWIW, silencing anyone who deviates from the Party Line is not the way to build a movement. I voted for Bush, but if you don't want my support, I can vote Libertarian next time (as I was tempted to last time). Just don't imagine Bush won't need libertarian support in 2004 -- Bush Sr. had 90% approvals in 1991, and lost a year later.

424 posted on 01/06/2002 10:00:48 PM PST by Commie Basher
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To: Arator
If Rivero could post here, I have no doubt that he would answer their lame charges and, in the process, eat their lunch. But since he can't, these cowards are apparently emboldened to slander and defame him with impunity. It's a sorry display.

I enjoyed reading Rivero. I didn't have to buy the tabloids. You are wrong that he answered serious questions. On the few times that I actually knew something about one of his conspiracy theories and gave him some direction he went silent as a corpse.

Quit whining and tell me what you think about Herr Buchanan's latest the sky is falling belch.

425 posted on 01/07/2002 5:07:25 AM PST by harrowup
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To: _Jim
More Proof. Loopy.
426 posted on 01/07/2002 7:05:35 AM PST by kylaka
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To: Vigilant1
You can email these jerks at rivero@whatreallyhappened.com,

It's just Michael Rivero off his meds again. No big deal.

427 posted on 01/07/2002 7:10:21 AM PST by Ditto
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To: Vigilant1
Thank goodness Robinson does not allow these creeps the right to clutter up Free Republic.
428 posted on 01/07/2002 7:25:26 AM PST by Texbob
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To: Arator
If Rivero could post here, I have no doubt that he would answer their lame charges and, in the process, eat their lunch.

Rivero in a debate at FR is a character straight out of a Warner Brothers cartoon. About to be smashed by an eighteen-wheeler filled with heavy, cold facts he pulls a magic crayon out of his pocket, draws a round, black hole on the ground and drops into it to allow the eighteen-wheeler to pass harmlessly overhead.

Rivero doesn't "eat" anyone's lunch. It's an illusion he creates for the benefit of the shallow-thinkers here--such as yourself. When confronted with indisputable evidence of his stupidity and sloth as a "researcher," Rivero simply invents new "facts" with such rapidity and volume that no one can keep up with him.

Rivero is an especially energetic squid, fouling the water with black ink. He is amusing to watch for awhile, but the show soon gets old.

429 posted on 01/07/2002 7:37:13 AM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: Dakotabound
"this is Jim's house"

Well, here is all Jim says he doesn't want to hear

."Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts"

and since FR is promoted as an open conservative forum, that is exactly what we should get.

Obviously it is an exaggeration to say anything anti-Bush gets pulled.. BUT

There is certainly a lot of pro-war, nationalist (not patriotic) fascist railing with very little support for traditional Constitutional conservative principle.

430 posted on 01/07/2002 8:07:16 AM PST by tberry
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To: alien2
I'd show them. I wouldn't post another article. No siree. Pull me once, shame on you. Pull me twice, shame on me.
432 posted on 01/07/2002 9:21:40 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: alien2
The moderator just deleted another one of my articles! This is getting ridiculous!

What, your stupid vanity? FR rules ask that vanities be well written, comprehensive and original and carry content that is not easily part of an existing thread. Since you simply tried to get us to go to your bright idea on another thread, I'd say you failed that vanity litmus test hands-down.

433 posted on 01/07/2002 9:26:05 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: alien2
Well, you wouldn't have to worry about Moderators deleting your articles anymore.
435 posted on 01/07/2002 9:31:20 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: Vigilant1
Sigh. If only the US was run as Jim runs freerepublic as per those emails. Too bad idiots call it Jim's propaganda, too bad for them. They have no idea about the type of propaganda they are themselves under.
438 posted on 01/07/2002 9:35:17 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: alien2
It wasn't vanity!

Yes, it was. Any post that is not posted from another source and is your own creation is a vanity. That doesn't mean that vanities are inferior - but they should be original, well written and substantive. If we all started a thread for every idea that popped into our heads, the forum would be a complete mess. This is not a chatroom.

And actually talking about a solution to America's problem is an original idea for this forum.

You were already doing that on an existing thread, and all you did was start a thread where you didn't even tell people what your idea was - what good is that?

No, this is just making me angry.

Poor baby.

There was no good reason to delete that article, none. That article was doing no harm whatsoever.

It was forum clutter, and it violated forum rules for vanity posts. If you don't like those rules, I suggest you take it up with JimRob.

439 posted on 01/07/2002 9:38:17 AM PST by dirtboy
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